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PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:00 pm 
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Is there anyway to move or delete columns in EA? The new lc1 feature puts the wideband info way to the right, I would really like to see it by my lambse/rpms/etc. I already have no columns used removed.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 6:08 am 
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I asked for the ability to move/drag columns so they can be displayed next to the relevant data. Clint said that wasn't a trivial task so I never pushed it. But I too would love to be able to rearrange my columns. For instance, when I get a ping, I reach over and hit the marker on my laptop. When I'm in EA, I sort my datalog to float the markers to the top of the list. Then I want to see what RPM/Load I was in as well as what the spark value was that was pushing the engine to ping. But it seems RPM/Load are the most common I use together. At a minimum, it would be nice for BE to group these. Likewise LAMBSE/KAMRF/HEGO/WB/InjPW/InjDC are all values that are used together and should be grouped. Although people that prefer STFT and LTFTs may prefer to swap them for the LAMBSE/KAMRFs. So a fixed organization really isn't the answer. Ideally, we just need the ability to rearrange (preferably by dragging) the columns the way you can in some of the newer programs. And it would be nice if that organization was remembered so on the next load, the same column order is displayed.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:35 pm 
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Yeah, this is something I've asked about too. Apparently it's not that easy to align the columns up differently.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 8:56 pm 
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One thing I do quite often is import the logs to an Access DB. Then I can query and arrange columns to suit my need. I find this a very useful way to examine the data because I can also sort and filter to see specific conditions.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:16 pm 
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after looking at this a little more, I found that Microsoft finally added the ability to move columns on the Dot Net 2.0. I will see what it takes to do it and get it in EA.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:55 pm 
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Got my EA updated and I can move my columns. :P

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 5:02 am 
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The new column options are nice. I just wish they didn't come at such a performance hit. If you load up a few long logs, it takes quite a while for the auto-size to finish. The more data you load up, the longer it takes to analyze it all and determine the optimum column width. Sorting the columns takes a bit of time too. But I guess I can live with it. Besides, Clint might find some enhancement or more efficient use of the new table that speeds things up. He's found other similar optimizations that made huge differences in performance.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:27 am 
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I agree chris. I am always looking to try and make it faster and more reliable.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:14 am 
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Ok so I guess it wasn't me resizing the columns. I posted a ? about the auto sizing because I thought I caused it and didn't remember it taking that long before I messed with column width. Maybe the auto sizing could sample the first x rows to determine column width rather than the whole file. I think Access cheats this way as well since I think I ran into it causing errors with outlying data deep in files.

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Other Microsoft C++ column controls only analyze the visual portion of the data (what's on the screen). Autosizing is fast for them...and it doesn't hurt that most of those controls are C++ not .NET based, but as soon as you scroll through your data, there may be areas below that are still wider and thus the column is too small. I actually like the fact that this control analyzes the entire column of data. But you are right, most of our data doesn't change width by much. Analyzing a subset of the data to autosize to would probably be sufficient. I'm just not sure that is an option. Microsoft controls generally don't lend themselves to modification easily beyond what they make available. But perhaps that is an available option?

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 8:33 am 
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That is a good point I could try that. Currently I have to do the suto size on all data and then record the size of each column. Then I take the suto size option off and set the columns to the memorized with. I have to do it this way because if I leave the auto size on then the user will not have any control over the column width.

Now I could auto size to the viewable rows and then do the same thing above but add say 5 pixels or so. This may speed it up.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:09 am 
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I'm sure that would make it FAR faster. Although I doubt it would speed up sorting the columns. But I'm getting used to going to the BOTTOM of the datalog to get what I'm looking for which saves me a sort.

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Clint, you could always set the data grid to autosize at load, then after loaded turn the autosizing off. It should stay to what it was autosized to.

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That's what it does. But it takes so long for the autosize procedure to complete that it is a little annoying. However he made some mods and sent me a preview. It complete FAR faster. It's almost instantanious. I don't know exactly what he's done, but whatever it is, it's much better. So I expect him to release that for update in the next day or two.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 4:28 pm 
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Oh YEah!!!! I was excited originally to see how fast it loaded and filtered, then the autosizing crap came up, now I am excited again.

With EA and BE working this way mkes tuning the Maf curve quick and easy, hell I make changes pulling over into parking lots and try the new tune. With the old software I would never dream of it, take logs return home clean logs, load EA, calc, manually transfer to Caledit...

Thanks for your effort at making my efforts less painful!

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 10:15 pm 
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Frit wrote:
Clint, you could always set the data grid to autosize at load, then after loaded turn the autosizing off. It should stay to what it was autosized to.

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I tried this at first but when the auto size was turned off it reverted the size of the columns back too. I thought that was weird so I had to memorize the size when the auto size was enabled and the reapply them manually after the auto size was disabled.

The version i sent to Chris had the auto size only on the displayed rows verse the entire table. It is much faster.

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