Hi all,

I just finished up sliding a new cam in and I wanted to ask for some advice about what to do in BE before I fire this up to break it in. I already got it to idle and run well on 42# injectors, took a little bit of spark out of sprk_global by -4 for being boosted, anything else you guys can think of for this new cam? thanks

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95 GT:
T4M0
Stock Block
Vortech @12psi
C4 Trans w/ 3.73 Rear
42# MAF/INJ
E303 CAM
QH
Best 1/8th: 8.55 @ ~70mph
1/4: 13.55 @ 101mph... Def needs dialed in

Injector timing.

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1990 LX 302/AOD, A9P, GUFB, BE 2010/EA, QH, LC-1, stock block/internals and cam, 70mm turbo (On3 kit) AFR 165's, 1.6RR's, Professional Products intake with 70mm TB, no EGR/SMOG, 2003 cobra 39lb injectors(Siemens Deka 60's on order), Aeromotive FPR set at 39psi, Underdrives, 3.55's and 5-lugged.

could have at least swapped an f303 in instead

yea i could have done that but its also sorta my daily driver with only 2300 stall in it, not to mention i haven't heard from my local converter tech in a couple of months so im outta luck gettin another converter done with higher stall. any thoughts decipha i could of over looked before i fire this up, regardless of cam choice?

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95 GT:
T4M0
Stock Block
Vortech @12psi
C4 Trans w/ 3.73 Rear
42# MAF/INJ
E303 CAM
QH
Best 1/8th: 8.55 @ ~70mph
1/4: 13.55 @ 101mph... Def needs dialed in

you stilll would have been better off with the f303, i have an f in my soon to be daily as well as a bunch of folks i know as well, can't beat that f sound

thanks for the advice

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95 GT:
T4M0
Stock Block
Vortech @12psi
C4 Trans w/ 3.73 Rear
42# MAF/INJ
E303 CAM
QH
Best 1/8th: 8.55 @ ~70mph
1/4: 13.55 @ 101mph... Def needs dialed in

I dont think the e cam is all that bad of a cam for a mild street blower set up. There is better out there but youll be fine with what you have for now.

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1989 GT - 25th Anniversary 5.0, Vortech S-Trim, TFS Trackheat Heads & Intake, TFS Stage 1 Cam, FRPP 1.6 RR, 75mm TB, Pro-M 80mm, Anderson Power Pipe, FRPP 42#s, GS-340/255 lph pump, Anderson 1-3/4 shorties, 3" Borla Exhaust, Tremec T-5, 3.73-31 spline, MSD 6AL2, complete-lowered suspension A9L, Moates QH/SL v1.6/1.4, BE, EA, Innovate LC-1/XD-16.

1992 LX - 25.1c Chassis, Vortech Blown Renegade 317, Lentech Trans, TRZ Backhalf,A3M1, Moates QH/SL v1.6/1.4 BE, EA

My friend ran 11.2@124 with an off the shelf edelbrock setup and Powerdyne in a 94 GT. The Edelbrock cam is the same as an E303. They are not the BEST cam but work pretty decent. I changed the injector timing on the last one I did, raised timing at idle, and it didn't need a lot other than that really. I'd have to go look though. Idle 800 ish.

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1993 Mustang LX Reef Blue
5spd, h/c/i, Si-Trim, etc..etc

I have the F in mine, but looked seriously between it and the E. Just looked like the F was a little better for FI, but you sacrificed a little power with it NA. Either should work well in your app.

Now as far as the tuning, I haven't gotten that far yet

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1978 Mustang II King Cobra
89 5.0HO, Stock Short Block, Edelbrock 4bbl aluminum intake, Holley 650 double pumper, MSD 6AL, Ford F303 cam, 1.7:1 Crane Roller Rockers, Pocket Ported stock heads, Hedman Long Tube Headers
5 spd Manual
Full roll cage, 9" full floater w/Currie trac lock/373 gears, RCI Fuel Cell
Project Page: http://www.brandttuning.com/projects.htm

brandt is it?

do you agree the f is complete ear sex?

Oh yes, especially with headers into glass packs ("header mufflers"). But i have no reference or frame of comparison on it vs the E

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1978 Mustang II King Cobra
89 5.0HO, Stock Short Block, Edelbrock 4bbl aluminum intake, Holley 650 double pumper, MSD 6AL, Ford F303 cam, 1.7:1 Crane Roller Rockers, Pocket Ported stock heads, Hedman Long Tube Headers
5 spd Manual
Full roll cage, 9" full floater w/Currie trac lock/373 gears, RCI Fuel Cell
Project Page: http://www.brandttuning.com/projects.htm

ill be sure to make a sound clip for ya when i get mine running with flowmaster 40s

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95 GT:
T4M0
Stock Block
Vortech @12psi
C4 Trans w/ 3.73 Rear
42# MAF/INJ
E303 CAM
QH
Best 1/8th: 8.55 @ ~70mph
1/4: 13.55 @ 101mph... Def needs dialed in

Thats all I'm looking for, 11s... Just to knock a relative off the top spot. Anything lower than 12s and I'm set, and thats why I came to the choice of getting an E303. I'm saving "Going all out" till I am a little older and a little wiser. I have a feeling nitro methane might be in my future :D

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95 GT:
T4M0
Stock Block
Vortech @12psi
C4 Trans w/ 3.73 Rear
42# MAF/INJ
E303 CAM
QH
Best 1/8th: 8.55 @ ~70mph
1/4: 13.55 @ 101mph... Def needs dialed in

A guy on Corral.net is running a 11.9x with a totally stock motor and high boost in a 94gt...

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1993 Mustang LX Reef Blue
5spd, h/c/i, Si-Trim, etc..etc

yea i wonder how much boost i can push on a stock bottom end

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95 GT:
T4M0
Stock Block
Vortech @12psi
C4 Trans w/ 3.73 Rear
42# MAF/INJ
E303 CAM
QH
Best 1/8th: 8.55 @ ~70mph
1/4: 13.55 @ 101mph... Def needs dialed in

Back in the day mine survived (for a little while that is) with 17#.

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1989 GT - 25th Anniversary 5.0, Vortech S-Trim, TFS Trackheat Heads & Intake, TFS Stage 1 Cam, FRPP 1.6 RR, 75mm TB, Pro-M 80mm, Anderson Power Pipe, FRPP 42#s, GS-340/255 lph pump, Anderson 1-3/4 shorties, 3" Borla Exhaust, Tremec T-5, 3.73-31 spline, MSD 6AL2, complete-lowered suspension A9L, Moates QH/SL v1.6/1.4, BE, EA, Innovate LC-1/XD-16.

1992 LX - 25.1c Chassis, Vortech Blown Renegade 317, Lentech Trans, TRZ Backhalf,A3M1, Moates QH/SL v1.6/1.4 BE, EA

For a little while?

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...Always Somethin'

89 Ranger Supercab, 331 w/GT40p heads, ported Explorer lower, Crane Powermax 2020 cam, 1.6RRs, FMS Explorer (GT40p) headers, Slot Style MAF, aftermarket T5 'Z-Spec', 8.8" rear w/3.27s, Powertrax Locker, Innovate LC-1, GUFB, Moates QuarterHorse tuned using BE&EA

Member V8-Ranger.com

14 or so runs on a bone stock block and bottom end before the crank came out the front end and and split the block from the side of cylinder 5 from the head bolt down to the oil filter housing and from the lower intake valley where the distributor mounts and points south past the front cover...lol....The remarkable thing was that the top end (heads up) was undamaged. A 5speed and 7200 rpm power shifts probably did not help matters out either. All that happened at 1000 ft out. Needless to say she made a mess on the track and she was more than a handful to reign in and slow down.

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1989 GT - 25th Anniversary 5.0, Vortech S-Trim, TFS Trackheat Heads & Intake, TFS Stage 1 Cam, FRPP 1.6 RR, 75mm TB, Pro-M 80mm, Anderson Power Pipe, FRPP 42#s, GS-340/255 lph pump, Anderson 1-3/4 shorties, 3" Borla Exhaust, Tremec T-5, 3.73-31 spline, MSD 6AL2, complete-lowered suspension A9L, Moates QH/SL v1.6/1.4, BE, EA, Innovate LC-1/XD-16.

1992 LX - 25.1c Chassis, Vortech Blown Renegade 317, Lentech Trans, TRZ Backhalf,A3M1, Moates QH/SL v1.6/1.4 BE, EA

yea im not looking at reving to the moon either unless it keeps pulling past 6k but im lookin for about 425 horses so probably 14#?

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95 GT:
T4M0
Stock Block
Vortech @12psi
C4 Trans w/ 3.73 Rear
42# MAF/INJ
E303 CAM
QH
Best 1/8th: 8.55 @ ~70mph
1/4: 13.55 @ 101mph... Def needs dialed in

You "should" be ok with the proper tune and supporting mods since automatics are much more forgiving than sticks in the breakage department since sticks just tend to be more violent. Thats one of the big reasons I went auto in my racer. Unfortunately with stock blocks you just never know.

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1989 GT - 25th Anniversary 5.0, Vortech S-Trim, TFS Trackheat Heads & Intake, TFS Stage 1 Cam, FRPP 1.6 RR, 75mm TB, Pro-M 80mm, Anderson Power Pipe, FRPP 42#s, GS-340/255 lph pump, Anderson 1-3/4 shorties, 3" Borla Exhaust, Tremec T-5, 3.73-31 spline, MSD 6AL2, complete-lowered suspension A9L, Moates QH/SL v1.6/1.4, BE, EA, Innovate LC-1/XD-16.

1992 LX - 25.1c Chassis, Vortech Blown Renegade 317, Lentech Trans, TRZ Backhalf,A3M1, Moates QH/SL v1.6/1.4 BE, EA

Yea so far she has gone 50k hard miles with 8# on it and has held up fine. Only thing I really need to work on in my tune is part throttle detonation which in my car is a big problem cause im not pushing any boost at part throttle and its not like I'm running super lean, had it dyno'd and afr at the pipe said pig rich ( >10:1 ) from 3800 up to 5200. even with 42# inj I still detonate after richening up the fuel some. Oh and i even have my timing at the dizzy at 6 degrees with 93 octane, leaded 110 does not do this and im able to go up to 14 degrees running 110.

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95 GT:
T4M0
Stock Block
Vortech @12psi
C4 Trans w/ 3.73 Rear
42# MAF/INJ
E303 CAM
QH
Best 1/8th: 8.55 @ ~70mph
1/4: 13.55 @ 101mph... Def needs dialed in

Pulling global -4 isn't going to help much. You need to get in there and really play with the tables if you want it to run as smooth as possible.

Also since you're boosted you can run alot of timing low/midrange till the blower comes on.

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Matt
90 GT, 347, 8.5:1 comp, Vortech S-trim (11psi), Edelbrock 6037 heads, Super Victor 8.2 EFI Ported, 80MM Pmas, 60lb EV14 Bosch Gen 4 Injectors, KB BAP, B31 Cam. Tweecer RT, A9L. Software: EA/BE. 550rwhp & 513rwtq.
2004 Marauder light mods
2003 Sonic Blue 03' Cobra 497rwhp 481tq

what tables should i fiddle with? just got her running and dets like crazy

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95 GT:
T4M0
Stock Block
Vortech @12psi
C4 Trans w/ 3.73 Rear
42# MAF/INJ
E303 CAM
QH
Best 1/8th: 8.55 @ ~70mph
1/4: 13.55 @ 101mph... Def needs dialed in

hmm i think i need to make a write up about how timing is controlled in the newer ecu's

in short, the ecu delivers the least amount of spark calculated

give me a few minutes let me eat real quick get a couple more beers in me and i'll make a nice little detailed write up

Uh oh, alcohol induced write up lol. j/k Definitely would not be a bad idea...

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1993 Mustang LX Reef Blue
5spd, h/c/i, Si-Trim, etc..etc

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1989 GT - 25th Anniversary 5.0, Vortech S-Trim, TFS Trackheat Heads & Intake, TFS Stage 1 Cam, FRPP 1.6 RR, 75mm TB, Pro-M 80mm, Anderson Power Pipe, FRPP 42#s, GS-340/255 lph pump, Anderson 1-3/4 shorties, 3" Borla Exhaust, Tremec T-5, 3.73-31 spline, MSD 6AL2, complete-lowered suspension A9L, Moates QH/SL v1.6/1.4, BE, EA, Innovate LC-1/XD-16.

1992 LX - 25.1c Chassis, Vortech Blown Renegade 317, Lentech Trans, TRZ Backhalf,A3M1, Moates QH/SL v1.6/1.4 BE, EA

How's that write up coming? 1 too many beers? Lol

I think he posted it and it got moved to the FAQ section:
FAQs>tuning ignition timing -spark advance

He has another thread related to timing that might be worth looking at:
FAQs>timing 101

TBO, I haven't read through either one yet. It's on the to-do list.

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...Always Somethin'

89 Ranger Supercab, 331 w/GT40p heads, ported Explorer lower, Crane Powermax 2020 cam, 1.6RRs, FMS Explorer (GT40p) headers, Slot Style MAF, aftermarket T5 'Z-Spec', 8.8" rear w/3.27s, Powertrax Locker, Innovate LC-1, GUFB, Moates QuarterHorse tuned using BE&EA

Member V8-Ranger.com

I moved them to the FAQ section and left Deciphas FAQ unlocked so he can update it. I may have locked it since and can reopen it if need be.

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1989 GT - 25th Anniversary 5.0, Vortech S-Trim, TFS Trackheat Heads & Intake, TFS Stage 1 Cam, FRPP 1.6 RR, 75mm TB, Pro-M 80mm, Anderson Power Pipe, FRPP 42#s, GS-340/255 lph pump, Anderson 1-3/4 shorties, 3" Borla Exhaust, Tremec T-5, 3.73-31 spline, MSD 6AL2, complete-lowered suspension A9L, Moates QH/SL v1.6/1.4, BE, EA, Innovate LC-1/XD-16.

1992 LX - 25.1c Chassis, Vortech Blown Renegade 317, Lentech Trans, TRZ Backhalf,A3M1, Moates QH/SL v1.6/1.4 BE, EA

thank you very much, i got timing down now lets do fuel

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95 GT:
T4M0
Stock Block
Vortech @12psi
C4 Trans w/ 3.73 Rear
42# MAF/INJ
E303 CAM
QH
Best 1/8th: 8.55 @ ~70mph
1/4: 13.55 @ 101mph... Def needs dialed in