95 Cobra,347,Lmaf,Quaterhorse/BE---> Bringing it together

[9blackcobra5]

I recently installed a 347 stroker motor into my car and I wanted what was next in getting the car run for the first time.
Mods are in the sig and all responses will be greatly appreciated.
As of now:
Quarterhorse chip and usb are installed inside the computer
BE installed on my Laptop

What is next?

[EDS50]

You can start here: http://eectuning.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=6399

and then you can cruise over to the Board Index and search through the faq's and tech doc threads to get started out. You will want to visit Clints website http://www.eecanalyzer.net and download the proper strategy and .bin you will be using and load them on to the ecu if you have not done so already. Once you have those in place you can start setting your tune up by inputting your injector settings, maf curve and disabling stuff like egr and thermactor plumbing if you are not using them. Reading the tweecer .pdf http://www.tweecer.com/downloads.htm (click on manual) was a great help to me when I first started out. The rest is search and read, experiment, trial and error and posting questions for answers. Welcome aboard.

[qikgts]

Also, keep in mind if your Quarterhorse is version 1.6 or higher, you need to use BE2010...

[9blackcobra5]

I ran into my first problem. My laptop is detecting the Quarterhorse but EEC Editor is not. Any suggestions?

[qikgts]

You can try and PM a user named Dale McPeters on this board. I know he uses EEC Editor, he may be able to help you...

There is also a yahoo group for EEC Editor. I posted the link below...

http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/eeceditor/

[EDS50]

I ran into my first problem. My laptop is detecting the Quarterhorse but EEC Editor is not. Any suggestions?

I am confused, your title says you are using Clint Garrity's Binary Editor, but you make mention that your EEC Editor which is a Paul Booth software is not recognizing you QuarterHorse. Which software are you actually using?

[9blackcobra5]

I ran into my first problem. My laptop is detecting the Quarterhorse but EEC Editor is not. Any suggestions?

I am confused, your title says you are using Clint Garrity's Binary Editor, but you make mention that your EEC Editor which is a Paul Booth software is not recognizing you QuarterHorse. Which software are you actually using?

Do I not need both programs? I have both saved to my computer. I made the mistake of thinling that BE 2010 was some sort of update to the paid version I had and ended up erasing my paid version and installed 2010 over that one. Right now I am trying to get my key cold back for my paid version and install it again.

As of yesterday I can verify that only my computer is recognizing the quarterhorse. Eec editor is not and until I have a registered version of BE I can't find out what the problem is.
I am using windows vista if that makes any difference

[9blackcobra5]

I ran into my first problem. My laptop is detecting the Quarterhorse but EEC Editor is not. Any suggestions?

I am confused, your title says you are using Clint Garrity's Binary Editor, but you make mention that your EEC Editor which is a Paul Booth software is not recognizing you QuarterHorse. Which software are you actually using?

Do I not need both programs? I have both saved to my computer. I made the mistake of thinling that BE 2010 was some sort of update to the paid version I had and ended up erasing my paid version and installed 2010 over that one. Right now I am trying to get my key cold back for my paid version and install it again.

As of yesterday I can verify that only my computer is recognizing the quarterhorse. Eec editor is not and until I have a registered version of BE I can't find out what the problem is.
I am using windows vista if that makes any difference

[EDS50]

I ran into my first problem. My laptop is detecting the Quarterhorse but EEC Editor is not. Any suggestions?

I am confused, your title says you are using Clint Garrity's Binary Editor, but you make mention that your EEC Editor which is a Paul Booth software is not recognizing you QuarterHorse. Which software are you actually using?

Do I not need both programs? I have both saved to my computer. I made the mistake of thinling that BE 2010 was some sort of update to the paid version I had and ended up erasing my paid version and installed 2010 over that one. Right now I am trying to get my key cold back for my paid version and install it again.

As of yesterday I can verify that only my computer is recognizing the quarterhorse. Eec editor is not and until I have a registered version of BE I can't find out what the problem is.
I am using windows vista if that makes any difference

Oh, ok. You do not need both and I would highly recommend BE over EEC Editor. EEC Editor will not recognize the QH until you download additional program files. You will need to contact Paul Booth for the additional software if you still decide that you want to use that.. Since you have BE and you just downloaded BE2010, you will need to request a new reg code from Clint. You will have to do this from the BE under the register tab and it will send him a email with a new machine code based on the options you choose. He will get you taken care of as soon as possible. Unfortunately, he is currently dealing with the passing of a family member and he may not be as quickly available as he always is. Windows Vista is not an issue. You can use the BE2010 unregistered in a limited capacity in the mean time, make sure you enable Moates under the hardware tab.

[9blackcobra5]

Even though I have an unregistered version of be 201O, can I Use it to get My car running as it is the first start on this new motor?

[EDS50]

Even though I have an unregistered version of be 201O, can I Use it to get My car running as it is the first start on this new motor?

I think you should be able to load a tune and maybe make changes to the .bin but I think the datalogging will not work until it is regegistered. I could be wrong since BE2010 is different and Clint may have instated new guidlines to what is and is not available on unregistered versions. Maybe CGREY8 will be able to give you a more difinitive answer on this question.

[2Shaker]

I recently installed a 347 stroker motor into my car and I wanted what was next in getting the car run for the first time.
Mods are in the sig and all responses will be greatly appreciated.
As of now:
Quarterhorse chip and usb are installed inside the computer
BE installed on my Laptop

What is next?

Your setup is a lot like mine and when you get your BE issues sorted out you can try my tune if you like, I've attached it here. You will have to change the slopes as I have them set to 60#, and of course install your MAF curve.

July 6 2009 after pull 2.BIN

(56 KiB) Downloaded 38 times

[cgrey8]

I would expect an unlicensed ver of BE to not datalog or write a tune.

[9blackcobra5]

I touched base with clint.He should be sending me my unlock code today.So hopefully I will be start this car up for the first time later on.

[9blackcobra5]

I got my unlock code today and tried to load a tune, it seemed like it loaded but
I got this error afterwards:
Error 85: Templete Import
Details
Current cell cannot be set to an invisible cell

The templetes I used were the 42lbinj and 90mm LMAF


Also with the key one and QTH connected,my fan turns on and stays on.???

Any suggestions are highly appreciated

[9blackcobra5]

I got my unlock code today and tried to load a tune, it seemed like it loaded but
I got this error afterwards:
Error 85: Templete Import
Details
Current cell cannot be set to an invisible cell

The templetes I used were the 42lbinj and 90mm LMAF


Also with the key one and QTH connected,my fan turns on and stays on.???

Any suggestions are highly appreciated

[EDS50]

I got my unlock code today and tried to load a tune, it seemed like it loaded but
I got this error afterwards:
Error 85: Templete Import
Details
Current cell cannot be set to an invisible cell

The templetes I used were the 42lbinj and 90mm LMAF


Also with the key one and QTH connected,my fan turns on and stays on.???

Any suggestions are highly appreciated

I think there is a problem with the 42# template being corrupted somehow. I ran into this problem recently. Also note that the 42#template is for the gufx and cbaza strategies. Here is a known good 42#template you can try. Let me know if it works for ya.

42lb-Injectors.txt

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[9blackcobra5]

Since I fiirst started trying to input my tune into my eec I endedup with the same error I described a few post above the method I use was
Open calibration and select CBAZA(94-95mustang)
Select binary J4J1 (I Have Cobra)
Go to settings and make sure all levels are selected
Open templete and select the ones I will be using
Error message came right after the templete finish loading to the tune and the update,write and read. Tabs turned red.

I am going to I am going to to assume I got this message because I did not write the J4J1 tune to the eec. Would I beee corerect in assuming this?
What plan on doing to day is loading the J4J1 binary into the eec before I add my templetes and see if I have any luck with that. I will update when I get a chance

[qikgts]

You can make all your tunes without being hooked up to the eec. Just create and edit what you want then save them in the folder BE points to, should be CBAZA, and then load them into the QH whenever you want...

Try doing that and see if it works...

[9blackcobra5]

Clint got me straighten out yesterday as far as me getting errors when trying to load a tune or apply a templete to the tune. Right now I have my j4j1 tune loaded unto the qth. right now when I turn the key, the only thing that comes on is my fan.No spark or fuel right now
When I egt a chance today I will check the following:
Check my grounds
Make sure all harnesses are connected

If that doesn't work I will temporarily disconnect the qth from the eec and see if I have the same issue with the factory tune. This way I will find out if there was a good enough connection on j3 board and clean the board thoroughly before reinstalling the qth.
I sill post back with my results.

[9blackcobra5]

Also,can someone post up a clean lightning mass air meter templete? The one tuner exchange is corrupted.

[9blackcobra5]

Clint got me straighten out yesterday as far as me getting errors when trying to load a tune or apply a templete to the tune. Right now I have my j4j1 tune loaded unto the qth. right now when I turn the key, the only thing that comes on is my fan.No spark or fuel right now
When I egt a chance today I will check the following:
Check my grounds
Make sure all harnesses are connected

If that doesn't work I will temporarily disconnect the qth from the eec and see if I have the same issue with the factory tune. This way I will find out if there was a good enough connection on j3 board and clean the board thoroughly before reinstalling the qth.
I sill post back with my results.

Last night, I went out and checked all my harnesses and grounds. The ccrm harness bolt was not tighten up all the way and one of my ground wires needed to be connected also. After I buttoned all that up I went to turn the key on. My fuel pump finally primed. I still do not have aany spark but atleast I know the tune is succesfully loaded to the QTH and is on the eec.As far as the no spark issue is concerned, there is only three culprits:
Coil
PiP stator at the bottom of the distributor
Ignititon module on the passenger fender apron
I will change these today when I get a chance and check any other wiring that I may forgot to connect and report back later.

Still need a LMAf templete if someone can upload one or where to plug in LMAf values into BE2010

[qikgts]

Here's one of like four different 90mm transfers in EA. You can download EA for free and then import them into your tune by saving them in EA and then using the import button in BE. You can copy and paste them too...

[EDS50]

You can also contact popsracing here on the forum and I believe he has all the correct LMAF xfers. Shoot him a pm and I am sure he will help you out.

[9blackcobra5]

Fired up for the first time a couple days ago. working out some other bugs that came to light.
vid coming soon. Again, I thank all who posted and helped me get a better understanding of tuning.

[9blackcobra5]

Everything was going swell until I tried to restab my distributor and start it up to set it with a timing light. When to turn the key my fuel pump did not chime. The CCRM clicked and the injectors also when I turn the key on. Since right now I am using QTH 1.4 and was told it can corrupt my tune from a bug that is within that version of QTH, would the whole binary still be corrupt after reloading back onto the QTH? Or does this sound more like a mechanical problem?

[qikgts]

You could always remove the QH and turn the key to see if the pump primes. If the injectors and the CCRM work normally too, I'd think the tune was toast...

[9blackcobra5]

After I dug into the tune and everything. Mechanical in the engine compartment it turned out that the wiring harness that connects to the gas tank failed. After replacing that it will start up now.
My next issue would be that the car will not stay running once it has been started.
Turning the key on I get:
Strong fuel pump prime at the injectors and fuel pump.
Ccrm clicks indicating it is doing its job

After starting the car:
It will die the first try.
After a few tries it starts up but dies a moment later
When it did stay running on its own for a minute, when I go to hit the gas, it wouldn't rev over 3k and would gradually bog down until it died out. Pumping the gas did nothing. This was with the FPR vacuum hose on and off.
No fuel is leaking out anywhere so I am wondering where my fuel pressure is going.
What do I need to plug into my tune to increase the fuel pressure and where?.

[qikgts]

The computer has no control over fuel pressure. What did your fp gauge say was was going on?

Got a bin to share?

[korywiesner]

I bet your Fuel is fine...Unless you bought a cheap knock off 255 pump....I am assuming that you changed your Fuel filter... A poorly flowing fuel pump will typically at least settle back when you let off the throttle.
What happens when you load the stock .BIN?
Did you ever get your base timing set? What is it set to?
Are you 100% positive that you have your firing order correct?
What happens when you unplug your MAF and start the car?

Also, I see in your sig nothing about exhaust mods? Are you still running cats?

P.S. EECAnalyzer is worth every penny......I highly recommend getting that from Clint while you are in touch with him.