Pondering a new project on my '92 F-150.

It has a fresh 308ci. with an HO mustang cam.

It's a 2WD 5.0/E4OD truck, I would like to add an intake and heads to it down the road, as well as convert it to MAF. I'm thinking an OBD-II setup would be better? I already own a Quarterhorse to use on it, what would be the best ECM to find for it, that would control the E4OD and have good support?

I remember reading years back about WAY1 and VEX1 setups, are they OBD-II? I would prefer the dual 02 sensor setup and OBD-II if possible.

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I personally would use a 95 mustang ECM. I did a Mass air conversion on my 89 F150 years ago and I used a 93 T-bird ECM with good results but that wasn't an electronic Trans. The problem you wold have with OBDII is the only OBDII ECM for the 5.0 is distributorless (95-2001 explorer). It could be done though.

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94 T-Bird, 4.6 PI heads and intake, 80mm lightning MAF, 24# injectors, 4R70W trans with Mark VIII converter and 3.73 gears in rear.
2004 F250 super duty 5.4 untouched and used to tow anything I blow up back home.

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Howdy,

How about an EEC-V out of a'96 T-bird, Crown Vic, Town Car, etc.?

The Pick-N-Pull junkyards are full of them and the CDAN4 is fully broken.

It will controll the transmission and a plus would be the EDIS conversion with the cam sync, and crank trigger assembly out of a 5.0 Explorer.

I ain't no expert or nothing but this would be the route that I would take.

Paul

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Why do you say the controller for a 4R70W will control an E4OD?

The 96 F150 4.9 is MAF/OBD2/E4OD - not sure about the quarterhorse compatibility, though.

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has anyone ever verified the trans strategy switch can't simply be changed to control an e40d?

i find it stupid that henry would actually write a whole other strategy for it and the only difference is the solenoid order and an extra coasting solenoid

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Howdy,



Ok, I just checked my CDAN4 strategy and here's a list of trans that it will control.....

None, SIL, A4LD, AXOD, C6E4 (E4OD), A4LD-E, FAX-4, AOD-4 (AOD-1), 4EAT, and a CD4E.

Also has trans type:

Manual- no clutch, or gear switched forced neutral state

-no clutch or gear switch

- one clutch or gear switch

- both clutch and gear switch

Auto- non electronic neutral drive switch

- non electronic neutral pressure switch

- electronic PRNDL sensor.

This is with BE and Sailor Bob's CDAN4 file.

So the answer is "Yes, a CDAN4 will controll a E4OD.".

Paul

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"A veteran - whether active duty, retired, national guard, or reserve - is someone who, at one point in his or her life, wrote a blank check made payable to The 'United States of America', for an amount of 'up to and including my life.'" (Author unknown)

not exactly, that switch is was i was talking about, as i said, changing the switch may not actually do shit if the strategy isn't in the ecu's programming, thats why i was asking if anyone ever verified that it COULDN'T work by simply changing the switch

ford reuses the same code and changes crap here and there, it only makes sense that they would leave the strategy in there for the different trans since it would be more of an undertaking to remove it, not to mention the differences is just solenoid scheduling

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Howdy decipha,

Not 100% sure. But since you suggested that I use a CDAN4 for my 414W and since then I've done a lot of research and it's used in V-6 and V-8 Mustangs, T-birds/Cougars, Crown Vics, and 2wd and 4wd F-150's, E-150 vans and possibly others too.

My '96 V-6 T-bird, '97 V-8 T-bird and '97 V-6 F-150 all have a CDAN4 EEC-V.

Paul

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"A veteran - whether active duty, retired, national guard, or reserve - is someone who, at one point in his or her life, wrote a blank check made payable to The 'United States of America', for an amount of 'up to and including my life.'" (Author unknown)

yeah thats what i was saying, im pretty sure its in there i don't know why it wouldn't be, mpaton had me curious to find out if it really was, with the cdan4 though it wouldn't be a problem as you could use a different binary if need be, i don't think it would matter though

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Also bear in mind that although a strategy may support various transmissions the ecu hardware might not.

That is NOT a list of transmissions that CDAN4 will control. That is nothing more than a list of possible values that you might find across a wide range of strategies.


Just setting one of those inputs is NOT going to make the correct code for any transmission appear in the ECU. If the code isn't there, then other transmissions can NOT be controlled.

And that is the WRONG answer.

In many cases a strategy can control a single variety of automatic transmission and also a manual transmission.

CDAN4 has NO code to control an E4OD

We went through the same issue when I was helping my buddy turbo his '96 F-250 460 E4OD.

HOG0, HOG1, WAY1 and VEX1 all use the same strategy and will work. I believe there is one more as well, but can't recall it off the top of my head. We used a HOG1, as that was the only one we could find - and even then that was from E-Bay.

OBD-II would be nice to have, but that basically limits you to 96 F-150s - of which many were equipped with the 4R70W. No one seems to know the factors which determined the transmission you got. There are also a few extremely rare '97 F250/350 California MAF E4OD OBD-II EEC-V trucks, but I've only seen maybe two or three total on the Ford Trucks forum.

There's also the odd 94.5-96 PowerStroke EEC-V - that has both an OBD-II port and the standard EEC-IV test port, but I very, very much doubt you could adapt one to run a gasser.