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I wanted to start this discussion because there is a known phenomenon out there causing tunes to drop from the QuarterHorse. Its called EMI..electromagnetic interference. Its been an ongoing issue of mine and other racers (dale mcpeters) that I have been chasing to find a fix for. The problem exists in my race car where the entire engine and electrical harness is inside the car behind the dashboard. The ignition box is also under the passenger seat. Add aluminum race seats and a 25.1c chromoly cage and chassis and all hell breaks loose for some reason...lol. What happens is the tune gets dropped, lost, corrupted or something randomly for no appearant reason. The immediate effects are the car not idleing and severly loading up with fuel and just stalling. Re-writing the tune to the QH is the instant cure but who knows for how long. This emi also effects the datalogging. When in an active and running datalogging session the logger will stop the minute any power is made with the car. Obviously this requires carrying a laptop everywhere and is quite inconvenient. I have tried adding numerous ferrite beads to the usb cable and even removing them. The grounds in the car are way more than adequate. I dont know what else to do but maybe isolate the ecm/qh somehow from the wiring and electronics from the car. If anyone is thinking its the ignition box in the car, I have the ignitiion box under the driver seat in my street car and I have no problems. So I would like to see if there is a way to overcome this emi issue and maybe figure out whats actually causing it so maybe I can isolate the problem and help others who are experiencing this issue.

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Electromagnetic interference (or EMI, also called radio frequency interference or RFI when in high frequency or radio frequency) is disturbance that affects an electrical circuit due to either electromagnetic induction or electromagnetic radiation emitted from an external source.[1] The disturbance may interrupt, obstruct, or otherwise degrade or limit the effective performance of the circuit. These effects can range from a simple degradation of data to a total loss of data.[2] The source may be any object, artificial or natural, that carries rapidly changing electrical currents, such as an electrical circuit, the Sun or the Northern Lights.

EMI can be intentionally used for radio jamming, as in some forms of electronic warfare, or can occur unintentionally, as a result of spurious emissions for example through intermodulation products, and the like. It frequently affects the reception of AM radio in urban areas. It can also affect cell phone, FM radio and television reception, although to a lesser extent.

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never really had this issue with mine. the "biggest" near similar issue i have is leaving the laptop plugged in to log and if the power cord wiggles and it looses the laptop will freak out, drop the 2 usbs(innovate and QH), stop the log and kills the car for like 10 seconds. i just make sure i leave the laptop unplugged and not in the car charger when making passes.

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1> never plug in the usb cable with ignition off
2> unplug usb before turning off ignition

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decipha wrote:
1> never plug in the usb cable with ignition off
2> unplug usb before turning off ignition

3>enjoy


Unfortunately this has nothing to do with what I have been experiencing for almost 2 years now. Craig, Clint and I have determined something is causing interference in the usb cable to drop or time out the datalog. The random dropping of the tune remains a mystery. I was thinking of wrapping the ecm in tin foil just to see if it would do anything.

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decipha wrote:
1> never plug in the usb cable with ignition off
2> unplug usb before turning off ignition

3>enjoy

Decipha, is there issues if things are not done in the right order?
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Ed - does this happen, if say, you don't plug in the laptop.

i.e. - Put tune on QH. Un-plug USB. And just run the car without datalogging ?

If I were you, as a test I would be putting the ECU and QH from the non-race car into the race car to see if the condition still exists. I would be thinking there is something wrong with the QH itself. What about the battery on the QH itself ?

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NotchAbove wrote:
Ed - does this happen, if say, you don't plug in the laptop.

i.e. - Put tune on QH. Un-plug USB. And just run the car without datalogging ?

If I were you, as a test I would be putting the ECU and QH from the non-race car into the race car to see if the condition still exists. I would be thinking there is something wrong with the QH itself. What about the battery on the QH itself ?


Funny you ask. The car is at my buddys shop up on the jackstands. I re wrote the tune on wednesday. We pulled the trans to do a rear main seal, trans and motor mounts and just some routine maintenance. The couple of times we started it just to circulate the fluids al was fine. He calls me tonight to tell me he went to start it and the tune is gone again and wont start. he tried 3 times but didnt want to fuel down the fresh oil so I am gonnna go in the morning to re load the tune. Before I do I am gonna read the tune of the QH and turn the key on and log the tune position. All this obviously happened without the laptop hooked up to the car. The QH was sent in and had the firmware updated to 1.6 a little over a year ago. The batterry in the car is new so I donnt know what gives. I remember when I trailered the car up here froom florida and it did the same thing. Drove the car on the trailer and 1500 miles later when I went to start the car to pull it off the tune was gone. Something is definitly going crazy. I might switch the ecms and QH's between cars but I think I did that already back in florida.

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What about the battery thats on the QH ??? The QH tune is kept alive by that battery not the car battery. Thinking is, if your battery in the car dies you don't lose your tune.

I don't know how long those batteries last, but its totally possible.

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NotchAbove wrote:
What about the battery thats on the QH ??? The QH tune is kept alive by that battery not the car battery. Thinking is, if your battery in the car dies you don't lose your tune.

I don't know how long those batteries last, but its totally possible.


If it was the qh battery it would loose the tune everytime I shut the car off but anything is possible. This is something to do with the qh for sure though.

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I have experienced this issue with a handful of customer cars. On rare occasion it has been enough of a problem that I have had to dust off my tweecer and use that instead. Unfortunately I don't have any suggestions to fix it.

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EDS50 wrote:
NotchAbove wrote:
What about the battery thats on the QH ??? The QH tune is kept alive by that battery not the car battery. Thinking is, if your battery in the car dies you don't lose your tune.

I don't know how long those batteries last, but its totally possible.


If it was the qh battery it would loose the tune everytime I shut the car off but anything is possible. This is something to do with the qh for sure though.


I will admit that I have no real knowledge of the QH hardware, not sure if it is always powered by its own batterym, if it pulls any power from the ECU, or if it gets any power when connected to the USB port.

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EFI-Unlimited wrote:
I have experienced this issue with a handful of customer cars. On rare occasion it has been enough of a problem that I have had to dust off my tweecer and use that instead. Unfortunately I don't have any suggestions to fix it.

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Just wondering, were these caged cars? I am curious to know if roll cages could be picking up and bouncing around rf signals/frequencies.

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decipha wrote:
1> never plug in the usb cable with ignition off
2> unplug usb before turning off ignition

3>enjoy


Hmmph... I've always do the opposite.

Plug in usb, power up laptop, write if nec, ign on.

Stop log, shut ign, pwr dwn/hibernate laptop, usb out.

Never had an issue.

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yeah sometimes you don't have issues, but on some vehicles/laptops it causes issues, i too once had a problem with the qh dropping tunes for no apparent reason, after i figured out it did it only when the usb was plugged in with the ignition off, i've never done it again and likewise, i've never had a qh drop a tune since

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decipha wrote:
yeah sometimes you don't have issues, but on some vehicles/laptops it causes issues, i too once had a problem with the qh dropping tunes for no apparent reason, after i figured out it did it only when the usb was plugged in with the ignition off, i've never done it again and likewise, i've never had a qh drop a tune since

I never plug the QH USB into the laptop before the car is running.
Every time I plug the usb into the laptop before putting power to the car, the fuel pump runs continuously and car won't start.


Eds50,
Have you checked over all the grounds?

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decipha wrote:
yeah sometimes you don't have issues, but on some vehicles/laptops it causes issues, i too once had a problem with the qh dropping tunes for no apparent reason, after i figured out it did it only when the usb was plugged in with the ignition off, i've never done it again and likewise, i've never had a qh drop a tune since

I never plug the QH USB into the laptop before the car is running.
Every time I plug the usb into the laptop before putting power to the car, the fuel pump runs continuously and car won't start.


Eds50,
Have you checked over all the grounds?


All the grounds are good. I did find pin 20 (ground) broken in the harness connector itself. The actual terminal end was broken which was kinda odd so I repinned and rewired pin 20 correctly. I also swapped the QH's from one car to another but left the ecms in the respective cars to see if the problem comes over to the 89 or not. The 89 so far is good. Ill have to drive the 92 to see if anything happens. I am trying to eliminate the QH as being the problem.

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EDS50 wrote:
vristang wrote:
decipha wrote:
yeah sometimes you don't have issues, but on some vehicles/laptops it causes issues, i too once had a problem with the qh dropping tunes for no apparent reason, after i figured out it did it only when the usb was plugged in with the ignition off, i've never done it again and likewise, i've never had a qh drop a tune since

I never plug the QH USB into the laptop before the car is running.
Every time I plug the usb into the laptop before putting power to the car, the fuel pump runs continuously and car won't start.


Eds50,
Have you checked over all the grounds?


All the grounds are good. I did find pin 20 (ground) broken in the harness connector itself. The actual terminal end was broken which was kinda odd so I repinned and rewired pin 20 correctly. I also swapped the QH's from one car to another but left the ecms in the respective cars to see if the problem comes over to the 89 or not. The 89 so far is good. Ill have to drive the 92 to see if anything happens. I am trying to eliminate the QH as being the problem.


Considering that Pin20 is the ground for the EEC Case, you might have found the problem.

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NotchAbove wrote:
EDS50 wrote:
vristang wrote:
decipha wrote:
yeah sometimes you don't have issues, but on some vehicles/laptops it causes issues, i too once had a problem with the qh dropping tunes for no apparent reason, after i figured out it did it only when the usb was plugged in with the ignition off, i've never done it again and likewise, i've never had a qh drop a tune since

I never plug the QH USB into the laptop before the car is running.
Every time I plug the usb into the laptop before putting power to the car, the fuel pump runs continuously and car won't start.


Eds50,
Have you checked over all the grounds?


All the grounds are good. I did find pin 20 (ground) broken in the harness connector itself. The actual terminal end was broken which was kinda odd so I repinned and rewired pin 20 correctly. I also swapped the QH's from one car to another but left the ecms in the respective cars to see if the problem comes over to the 89 or not. The 89 so far is good. Ill have to drive the 92 to see if anything happens. I am trying to eliminate the QH as being the problem.


Considering that Pin20 is the ground for the EEC Case, you might have found the problem.



I am really hoping so. If thats the case it would be the answer to my problem for almost 2 years now. I guess it goes to show you that as these cars get older and older the more quirky things tend to happen with them.

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Just wanted to follow up.

So far with the QH hardware that I thought was having an issue in my 92 was swapped into my 89 I have not experienced any issues so the problem is isolated to the 92. I am gonna drive the 92 around for a couple days and see how she acts weather permitting.

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another thing to check is the nds pin30 i've had to remove it once else the qh kept timing out killing the log, worth a shot

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decipha wrote:
another thing to check is the nds pin30 i've had to remove it once else the qh kept timing out killing the log, worth a shot


Worth looking into. I believe the nds can be manipulated throught the scaler trload.

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FYI, I have QH Firmware v1.2.

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it didn't matter what i set trload to, with the nds physically connected to the ecu the qh stopped logging everytime the trans was shifted (4r70w with manual vb) nds still hooked up

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FYI, I have QH Firmware v1.2.

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You should upgrade to v1.6. Send it to Craig. Its a free upgrade except for the ride there.

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Did you ever figure out if it was EMI causing the issue? Or the broken ground you found? Better yet, was there a cause that was ever found to the issue?

Did this issue just start randomly one day? Or since you have had it?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:33 am 
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If you are having tunes dump randomly where this wasn't happening before, that was determined by Moates to be a resistor problem. A batch of QHs were stuffed with 1k resistors where 10k resistors should've been. Send the QH back to Moates. They should repair/replace the QH for free.

You will need to fill out an RMA explaining the problem and reference the RMA on the postage you send the QH back in or via some note inside your package. You can fill out an RMA on the Moates website.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:58 am 
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Thanks for the info!

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 10:37 am 
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Mightyjo3Young wrote:
Did you ever figure out if it was EMI causing the issue? Or the broken ground you found? Better yet, was there a cause that was ever found to the issue?

Did this issue just start randomly one day? Or since you have had it?


In addition to what CGREY8 mentioned my fix is still in the works with a prototype logger. So far the issues has been addressed and all is working fine.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:11 pm 
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Fair warning, I read the first 5 posts or so, and some other random posts. So if this has been stated, tell me or just ignore me.

EMI is a fairly complex phenomenon... but if this latest "fix" doesn't work, mild steel is a great emi shield. Not that you want to do this, but shielding the source (i.e. ignition box in car), or the QH/ECM with some sheet stock might make a difference.

Just food for thought.

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