Quick set up:
1994 mustang with stock MAF & EV1 24 Lb/Hr injectors, QH & BE/EE

I have successfully run my very first log with the wideband via BE and did nothing to change the injectors or MAF, essentially running a stock tune. I was very surprised at how well it started and idled considering I did not even change the calibration for 24 lb/Hr injectors. I was looking at fordracings website and didn't see the calibration summary for 24 lb EV1 style injectors, the only one I saw was for the EV6 style (http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/ics/m-9593-m23.pdf). Will this work well to start out with or is there something better I can go with? The A/F at idle seemed to be a bit on the lean side so I'm hoping this will aid in fixing this.

Secondly, this may be a noobie question, I am using the stock MAF and looking for a good curve set up. I'm hoping with the two of these things I can be well on my way to fine tuning the engine.

I have attached my data log and If someone has any other advice being a noobie and all, please let me know.

Thank you!
-Ryan

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1994 Ford Mustang, Explorer 302 shortblock, TFS TW 170s, unknown cam/lifters, Stock MAF, Walbro 255lph

Most likely you will just need to tweak the injector settings...
I would leave the MAF Transfer alone since you are using the stocker...

This came from the tweecer manual for injector settings...

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90 GT - In storage, waiting for an engine... probably 351w based and EEC-V for CoP.
87 LX N/A 2.3 - CZAJL & EDIS
http://tunexchange.mustang-tech.org/ - RIP
http://www.SeattleBlueOvals.com - My Local Site

If we knew what we were doing, we wouldn’t call it research, would we? - Albert Einstein

the 94-95s are typically a half point off, i would leave the low slope and breakpoint be for the time being, you may find that by simply increasing the high slope from 19.xxx to 21.5 your fuel is pretty much about where it needs to be

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decipha, you say that my fuel is pretty much where it needs to be? I think I'm running pretty lean at idle thus the reason I am stumbling a bit. I need to try to richen it up for sure, I will try adjusting the high slope like you said and report back. There were points where I saw 24 - 25 A/F readings from my wideband which I believe is very lean even at idle. What is the general consensus around here for target idle mixture?

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1994 Ford Mustang, Explorer 302 shortblock, TFS TW 170s, unknown cam/lifters, Stock MAF, Walbro 255lph

I created a plot of commanded AF vs feedback. I wonder why there is a large delta at idle and not so much @ WOT or partial throttle. Anyone have any suggestions?

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1994 Ford Mustang, Explorer 302 shortblock, TFS TW 170s, unknown cam/lifters, Stock MAF, Walbro 255lph

My guess... Low Slope and BreakPoint...

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90 GT - In storage, waiting for an engine... probably 351w based and EEC-V for CoP.
87 LX N/A 2.3 - CZAJL & EDIS
http://tunexchange.mustang-tech.org/ - RIP
http://www.SeattleBlueOvals.com - My Local Site

If we knew what we were doing, we wouldn’t call it research, would we? - Albert Einstein

your not idling at 24-25 i can almost bet your engine wouldn't run that lean

disregard the wideband at idle and use convential tuning methods

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What is feedback on the X axis?

My personal oppinion is that this is a good starting point but dated information and I would recommend using the Ford Motorsport injector settings. They are far more accurate than these. I am sure I posted a Ford Motorsport Injector 24# template in the FAQ or tech doc section. A search will find it.

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1989 GT - 25th Anniversary 5.0, Vortech S-Trim, TFS Trackheat Heads & Intake, TFS Stage 1 Cam, FRPP 1.6 RR, 75mm TB, Pro-M 80mm, Anderson Power Pipe, FRPP 42#s, GS-340/255 lph pump, Anderson 1-3/4 shorties, 3" Borla Exhaust, Tremec T-5, 3.73-31 spline, MSD 6AL2, complete-lowered suspension A9L, Moates QH/SL v1.6/1.4, BE, EA, Innovate LC-1/XD-16.

1992 LX - 25.1c Chassis, Vortech Blown Renegade 317, Lentech Trans, TRZ Backhalf,A3M1, Moates QH/SL v1.6/1.4 BE, EA

^Agreed,
Couldn't find the Ford info when I posted... here it is though...
http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/pa ... ield=10972

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90 GT - In storage, waiting for an engine... probably 351w based and EEC-V for CoP.
87 LX N/A 2.3 - CZAJL & EDIS
http://tunexchange.mustang-tech.org/ - RIP
http://www.SeattleBlueOvals.com - My Local Site

If we knew what we were doing, we wouldn’t call it research, would we? - Albert Einstein

Did the OP not say he had EV1 injectors, and you're linking to Ford racing EV6 24# injectors.

On a similar note are there calibrations for the Stock light blue 24# injectors (as used on 460s) when used in an A9P ECU? These are definitely not Ford Racing injectors.

For crying out loud...

Since I am pucking things up so damn bad, where are the Ford racing settings for EV6 24's?
If you are going to be this critical of me, then come to the table with something positive.
I have no problem with being corrected for misinformation, but if I am wrong please tell me the RIGHT answer.


OP,
Yes, the settings you linked to in the first post are close enough. Load them up, Force OL, and from there make adjustments. Especially considering that it's all us ratards can seem to find

I agree with Decipha, 24-25 AFR is unlikely. If it is running, it won't be running well.
Maybe something is off in how the WB is configured?

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90 GT - In storage, waiting for an engine... probably 351w based and EEC-V for CoP.
87 LX N/A 2.3 - CZAJL & EDIS
http://tunexchange.mustang-tech.org/ - RIP
http://www.SeattleBlueOvals.com - My Local Site

If we knew what we were doing, we wouldn’t call it research, would we? - Albert Einstein

EV1 blue top 24lb specs are at this link http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/ics/m-9593-a302.pdf

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95 GT; 331; CBAZA/T4M0; AFR 165 heads; 30#FRPP injectors; Edelbrock Performer RPM II intake; Comp XE270HR; Crane 1.7 roller rockers; BBK 75mm TB; ProM MAF; MAC shorty headers; QH-BE/EA

Here is a link to the template for the injectors you are looking for.

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=17267

Just apply the template to your tune.

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1989 GT - 25th Anniversary 5.0, Vortech S-Trim, TFS Trackheat Heads & Intake, TFS Stage 1 Cam, FRPP 1.6 RR, 75mm TB, Pro-M 80mm, Anderson Power Pipe, FRPP 42#s, GS-340/255 lph pump, Anderson 1-3/4 shorties, 3" Borla Exhaust, Tremec T-5, 3.73-31 spline, MSD 6AL2, complete-lowered suspension A9L, Moates QH/SL v1.6/1.4, BE, EA, Innovate LC-1/XD-16.

1992 LX - 25.1c Chassis, Vortech Blown Renegade 317, Lentech Trans, TRZ Backhalf,A3M1, Moates QH/SL v1.6/1.4 BE, EA

Hi Guys,

I have been out of the country for the last couple of months and had to put my project on hold. I am now back at it and have uploaded that EV1 24LB template to my tune. I have also forced the control into OL but appear I may still be having troubles with my wideband sensor. Today I did a took the girl out for a short jog around the block and grabbed some data while I was at it. The commanded fuel is no where near the feedback and idles poorly. I've never owned a "cammed" car in my life so I'm not sure what the vac should be while sitting at idle. Right now, it fluctuates anywhere between 6" and 8", does this sound normal or should it be higher? The idle is very rough right now and at times feels like it may die. Please take a look at the data I captured in my CSV file and see what you think. My plans are to try to re-cal my WBO2 and then attempt the trip again. Let me know what you guys have for suggestions!

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1994 Ford Mustang, Explorer 302 shortblock, TFS TW 170s, unknown cam/lifters, Stock MAF, Walbro 255lph

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1994 Ford Mustang, Explorer 302 shortblock, TFS TW 170s, unknown cam/lifters, Stock MAF, Walbro 255lph

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1994 Ford Mustang, Explorer 302 shortblock, TFS TW 170s, unknown cam/lifters, Stock MAF, Walbro 255lph

Your gonna have to spend more time dialing in air and fuel. Vacuum should be around 14 in/hg at idle.

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1989 GT - 25th Anniversary 5.0, Vortech S-Trim, TFS Trackheat Heads & Intake, TFS Stage 1 Cam, FRPP 1.6 RR, 75mm TB, Pro-M 80mm, Anderson Power Pipe, FRPP 42#s, GS-340/255 lph pump, Anderson 1-3/4 shorties, 3" Borla Exhaust, Tremec T-5, 3.73-31 spline, MSD 6AL2, complete-lowered suspension A9L, Moates QH/SL v1.6/1.4, BE, EA, Innovate LC-1/XD-16.

1992 LX - 25.1c Chassis, Vortech Blown Renegade 317, Lentech Trans, TRZ Backhalf,A3M1, Moates QH/SL v1.6/1.4 BE, EA

I know what you mean EDS50, can someone provide me with a template as to what I should be looking at?

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1994 Ford Mustang, Explorer 302 shortblock, TFS TW 170s, unknown cam/lifters, Stock MAF, Walbro 255lph

Unfortunately there is no one size fits all template. You will need to load your maf xfer, fuel injector settings, disable egr and airpump if they have been removed etc...etc... You will need to create a signature line describing your combination so people know what you are working with and can better help you. I am currently working on gufb related templates as time permits.

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1989 GT - 25th Anniversary 5.0, Vortech S-Trim, TFS Trackheat Heads & Intake, TFS Stage 1 Cam, FRPP 1.6 RR, 75mm TB, Pro-M 80mm, Anderson Power Pipe, FRPP 42#s, GS-340/255 lph pump, Anderson 1-3/4 shorties, 3" Borla Exhaust, Tremec T-5, 3.73-31 spline, MSD 6AL2, complete-lowered suspension A9L, Moates QH/SL v1.6/1.4, BE, EA, Innovate LC-1/XD-16.

1992 LX - 25.1c Chassis, Vortech Blown Renegade 317, Lentech Trans, TRZ Backhalf,A3M1, Moates QH/SL v1.6/1.4 BE, EA

Alright, I understand.

The car is a 1994 5.0; The strategy I’m using is CBAZA. Stock bore 302 with TFS 170 box heads. TFS intake manifold with stock intake system including a stock MAF. EV1 24 Lb/Hr injectors, QH & BE/EE. Unfortunately I did NOT build the engine and do not know what cam is in the set up right now. NO EGR, NO Smog. I have disabled the EGR but have not disabled the smog pump functionality; I will do that tomorrow. Any other tips or advice on where to begin?

Thanks!

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1994 Ford Mustang, Explorer 302 shortblock, TFS TW 170s, unknown cam/lifters, Stock MAF, Walbro 255lph