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 Post subject: dataloging maf
PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 4:04 pm 
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i am runiing be2012 and the quarterhorse
when i try to datalog the maf i get readings for the maf in volts but the maf inlb/min stays at zero
i have only those 2 pids selected and nothing else
i checked my maf transfer settings and i have values in every box
any reason why this wud be happening?
mike

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3400 stall converter,fmvb aod with transbrake and electronic od cancel,mark8 driveshaft,3.73 rear
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 Post subject: Re: dataloging maf
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 1:40 pm 
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Here's a little bump for you. I've got the exact opposite from day 1 so...subscribing.

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 Post subject: Re: dataloging maf
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 1:52 pm 
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even tho i dont quite know what im doing yet i wud still like to see wat the maf is telling the eec and wat the eec is seeing for air coming in

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1989 cougar 5.0 efi
stock 302 shortblock,afr165 heads,ecam,edelbrock performer rpm 2 intake,75 mm tb,80mm lightning maf,30lb ford injecters,msd billet dizzy,zex n2o plugs,zex 175 wetshot
3400 stall converter,fmvb aod with transbrake and electronic od cancel,mark8 driveshaft,3.73 rear
13.86 n/a
12.13 on 100 shot


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 Post subject: Re: dataloging maf
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 4:50 pm 
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joker772005 wrote:
i am runiing be2012 and the quarterhorse
when i try to datalog the maf i get readings for the maf in volts but the maf inlb/min stays at zero
i have only those 2 pids selected and nothing else
i checked my maf transfer settings and i have values in every box
any reason why this wud be happening?
mike


Are you just not seeing it on the dashboard? Are you sure your dashboard is set up to log the correct PID? double click the window where you want to MAF KG/Hr and make sure that it's set to log the same.

As a side note... I don't use MAF Kg/Hr... I use the volts only. If ytou get dependant at looking at airflow it will mess you up when tuning in a certain range. If you look only at votls its easier to keep it straight and to tune a range. For me anyways... YMMV....

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 Post subject: Re: dataloging maf
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 7:50 pm 
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Mike
I datalog all pids all the time. Never know what you'll find. I look at volts too.

Agree that you need to check your dashboard configuration. You may hav to assign the right pid to the guage you are watching. I think you can save a config if you like it.

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 Post subject: Re: dataloging maf
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 7:56 pm 
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I haven't messed with the dasboard with the gauges yet,on the screen that I ckbox all the pids I want to view the readings and click start, the maf kg/min stays at 0.0

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1989 cougar 5.0 efi
stock 302 shortblock,afr165 heads,ecam,edelbrock performer rpm 2 intake,75 mm tb,80mm lightning maf,30lb ford injecters,msd billet dizzy,zex n2o plugs,zex 175 wetshot
3400 stall converter,fmvb aod with transbrake and electronic od cancel,mark8 driveshaft,3.73 rear
13.86 n/a
12.13 on 100 shot


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 Post subject: Re: dataloging maf
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 8:02 pm 
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You need to right click over the gauge. Then hit config. That will let you setup the gauge.

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 Post subject: Re: dataloging maf
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 8:15 pm 
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I may be explaining it wrong.
I go under the datalog tab and select just the maf volts and maf kg/min and click start button and then the maf volts readings will change but the maf kg/min stays at 0.0 . All this is without clicking on dashboard 1 or 2.
Do I have to go under the dashboard to see the readings?I can see any other pid I select under the datalog tab and see the readings fluctuate
Ill have to figure out how to save a datalog and post it to explain
Mike

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1989 cougar 5.0 efi
stock 302 shortblock,afr165 heads,ecam,edelbrock performer rpm 2 intake,75 mm tb,80mm lightning maf,30lb ford injecters,msd billet dizzy,zex n2o plugs,zex 175 wetshot
3400 stall converter,fmvb aod with transbrake and electronic od cancel,mark8 driveshaft,3.73 rear
13.86 n/a
12.13 on 100 shot


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 Post subject: Re: dataloging maf
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 9:10 pm 
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joker772005 wrote:
I may be explaining it wrong.
I go under the datalog tab and select just the maf volts and maf kg/min and click start button and then the maf volts readings will change but the maf kg/min stays at 0.0 . All this is without clicking on dashboard 1 or 2.
Do I have to go under the dashboard to see the readings?I can see any other pid I select under the datalog tab and see the readings fluctuate
Ill have to figure out how to save a datalog and post it to explain
Mike

Try logging IMAF too?:
"This is the raw value from the MAF sensor. This value will undergo some correction logic. The result of that is VMAF, which is what's passed to FN036. "

FN036 is the MAF transfer curve.

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 Post subject: Re: dataloging maf
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 9:32 pm 
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I don't have many pids to select from,I don't even have to scroll the page down to see them all,
The only maf pids I have to select and log are those 2 I stated,mafv and maf kg/min

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1989 cougar 5.0 efi
stock 302 shortblock,afr165 heads,ecam,edelbrock performer rpm 2 intake,75 mm tb,80mm lightning maf,30lb ford injecters,msd billet dizzy,zex n2o plugs,zex 175 wetshot
3400 stall converter,fmvb aod with transbrake and electronic od cancel,mark8 driveshaft,3.73 rear
13.86 n/a
12.13 on 100 shot


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 Post subject: Re: dataloging maf
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 9:50 pm 
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What strategy is it? What def are you using?

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 Post subject: Re: dataloging maf
PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 9:54 pm 
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im useing the gsalc def file from dave dalke, my eec is e1x coded
there again i am not able to access the rev limiter,speed limiter or egr on/off .so there again it may be in the def file

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1989 cougar 5.0 efi
stock 302 shortblock,afr165 heads,ecam,edelbrock performer rpm 2 intake,75 mm tb,80mm lightning maf,30lb ford injecters,msd billet dizzy,zex n2o plugs,zex 175 wetshot
3400 stall converter,fmvb aod with transbrake and electronic od cancel,mark8 driveshaft,3.73 rear
13.86 n/a
12.13 on 100 shot


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 Post subject: Re: dataloging maf
PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 9:22 am 
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heres my datalog,hopefully i did it right.as you can see the maf lb/min stays at 0.0


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Unsaved 2012_May_22_09-55-42.csv [230.33 KiB]
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1989 cougar 5.0 efi
stock 302 shortblock,afr165 heads,ecam,edelbrock performer rpm 2 intake,75 mm tb,80mm lightning maf,30lb ford injecters,msd billet dizzy,zex n2o plugs,zex 175 wetshot
3400 stall converter,fmvb aod with transbrake and electronic od cancel,mark8 driveshaft,3.73 rear
13.86 n/a
12.13 on 100 shot
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 Post subject: Re: dataloging maf
PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 8:15 pm 
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as of right now i have 5 cylinders on bank 2 and 3 cylinders on bank 1,i know i need to change it and that may cleaR THE A/F UP A BIT

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1989 cougar 5.0 efi
stock 302 shortblock,afr165 heads,ecam,edelbrock performer rpm 2 intake,75 mm tb,80mm lightning maf,30lb ford injecters,msd billet dizzy,zex n2o plugs,zex 175 wetshot
3400 stall converter,fmvb aod with transbrake and electronic od cancel,mark8 driveshaft,3.73 rear
13.86 n/a
12.13 on 100 shot


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 Post subject: Re: dataloging maf
PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 9:18 pm 
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There is another guy on sccoa that is having this same problem with BE2012. Maybe a bug in it. But really you don't need to see how much air it is flowing.


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