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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 11:16 am 
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I have the SCT PRP and it is just a pain to get the low throttle drivability dialed in. I am geting a QH, BE and EA. So I don't have to start from scratch, can someone convert my SCT tune file to a bin file for BE? Thanks.

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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 12:43 pm 
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I have the SCT PRP and it is just a pain to get the low throttle drivability dialed in. I am geting a QH, BE and EA. So I don't have to start from scratch, can someone convert my SCT tune file to a bin file for BE? Thanks.


I think Decipha or PopsRacing or Bobcat may be capable of doing this. I would wait for them to chime in or PM one of them.

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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 3:59 pm 
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as ed stated we can do it but id advise against it, your best bet would be to just start from scratch

but in any case im in casper, wyoming so if your dead set on getting the bin ahoot me a pm and ill give u an addy to ship the chip to

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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2012 10:51 pm 
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decipha wrote:
as ed stated we can do it but id advise against it, your best bet would be to just start from scratch

but in any case im in casper, wyoming so if your dead set on getting the bin ahoot me a pm and ill give u an addy to ship the chip to


I have the actual tune file on my computer. Can you convert it if I email you the file? Thanks.

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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 6:49 pm 
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sure post the mtf

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It will not let me attach an .mtf file.

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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 7:52 pm 
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Did a search and figured out I needed to zip it. Thanks!


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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2012 10:25 pm 
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heres your professional sct dyno tune

my previous assumption was correct, its junk, i would never let a vehicle drive away like that

good luck


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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 7:55 am 
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Thanks decipha, I really appreciate it! That tune was done by a very well known tuner on a dyno and you can see why I want to tune it myself. At least this gives me a tune the car runs ok on while I learn BE.

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PostPosted: Mon May 07, 2012 8:00 am 
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decipha wrote:
heres your professional sct dyno tune

my previous assumption was correct, its junk, i would never let a vehicle drive away like that

good luck


Isnt it sad to see how "reputable" tuners let cars leave with this kind of tune for the money they charge?

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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2012 12:21 am 
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happens all to often Ed, problem is not too many tuners actually give a shit, thats why folks like me whom have a reputation for making sure everythings right offer a full money back guarantee if someone isn't satisfied or decides they want to bring their vehicle somewhere else, im even nice enough to email them their tune and print out a full description of all changes I even go so far as including the maf curve, injector values, inferred load, pump voltage, trans shift scheduling/pressures, fuel & spark maps on a seperate printed spreadsheet whenever requested

i haven't a dissatisfied client as of yet, at least not that i know of, but then again im not a 'professional' tuner either, i have a full time job at the refinery and i only tune at max 15 vehicles a weekend and that only when i feel like it so i don't deal with as many people as the real professionals.

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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2012 9:10 am 
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decipha wrote:
happens all to often Ed, problem is not too many tuners actually give a shit, thats why folks like me whom have a reputation for making sure everythings right offer a full money back guarantee if someone isn't satisfied or decides they want to bring their vehicle somewhere else, im even nice enough to email them their tune and print out a full description of all changes I even go so far as including the maf curve, injector values, inferred load, pump voltage, trans shift scheduling/pressures, fuel & spark maps on a seperate printed spreadsheet whenever requested

i haven't a dissatisfied client as of yet, at least not that i know of, but then again im not a 'professional' tuner either, i have a full time job at the refinery and i only tune at max 15 vehicles a weekend and that only when i feel like it so i don't deal with as many people as the real professionals.


The problem I ran into in the past with some tuners is that they like to target wot and not spend too much time on the low end and cruise portion of the tune. Too often I find that they get wot dialed in, get the car to start and idle and spend minimal time on the low end and cruise. Some prefer to get it close and rely on adaptives to bring it home for them. Different strokes for different folks I guess.

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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2012 5:49 pm 
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adaptives can't dial in spark though, at least not without a knock sensor

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decipha wrote:
adaptives can't dial in spark though, at least not without a knock sensor


Its not difficult to half ass a spark table as long as wot is dialed in.

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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 7:11 am 
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I read where some of you can open an SCT tune. I have a few i would like to look at, is there a way I can open them?

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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 12:56 pm 
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Unless you have Sct's software you can not read there files.


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EDS50 wrote:
decipha wrote:
happens all to often Ed, problem is not too many tuners actually give a shit, thats why folks like me whom have a reputation for making sure everythings right offer a full money back guarantee if someone isn't satisfied or decides they want to bring their vehicle somewhere else, im even nice enough to email them their tune and print out a full description of all changes I even go so far as including the maf curve, injector values, inferred load, pump voltage, trans shift scheduling/pressures, fuel & spark maps on a seperate printed spreadsheet whenever requested

i haven't a dissatisfied client as of yet, at least not that i know of, but then again im not a 'professional' tuner either, i have a full time job at the refinery and i only tune at max 15 vehicles a weekend and that only when i feel like it so i don't deal with as many people as the real professionals.


The problem I ran into in the past with some tuners is that they like to target wot and not spend too much time on the low end and cruise portion of the tune. Too often I find that they get wot dialed in, get the car to start and idle and spend minimal time on the low end and cruise. Some prefer to get it close and rely on adaptives to bring it home for them. Different strokes for different folks I guess.


This is exactly what I'm seeing with my new project car I bought. It supposedly has $1800 in tuning from a so called reputable shop but it bucks and kicks while cruising, stop and go traffic is the worst but WOT it runs like a champ. I was debating getting the SCT tune off of the flip chip but I am now going to start from scratch with the QuarterHorse.

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decipha wrote:
happens all to often Ed, problem is not too many tuners actually give a shit, thats why folks like me whom have a reputation for making sure everythings right offer a full money back guarantee if someone isn't satisfied or decides they want to bring their vehicle somewhere else, im even nice enough to email them their tune and print out a full description of all changes I even go so far as including the maf curve, injector values, inferred load, pump voltage, trans shift scheduling/pressures, fuel & spark maps on a seperate printed spreadsheet whenever requested

i haven't a dissatisfied client as of yet, at least not that i know of, but then again im not a 'professional' tuner either, i have a full time job at the refinery and i only tune at max 15 vehicles a weekend and that only when i feel like it so i don't deal with as many people as the real professionals.


The problem I ran into in the past with some tuners is that they like to target wot and not spend too much time on the low end and cruise portion of the tune. Too often I find that they get wot dialed in, get the car to start and idle and spend minimal time on the low end and cruise. Some prefer to get it close and rely on adaptives to bring it home for them. Different strokes for different folks I guess.


This is exactly what I'm seeing with my new project car I bought. It supposedly has $1800 in tuning from a so called reputable shop but it bucks and kicks while cruising, stop and go traffic is the worst but WOT it runs like a champ. I was debating getting the SCT tune off of the flip chip but I am now going to start from scratch with the QuarterHorse.


You would be much better off starting from scratch if thats the way she runs. You will be surprised with what you can do with the QH and BE.

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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 7:28 pm 
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decipha wrote:
heres your professional sct dyno tune

my previous assumption was correct, its junk, i would never let a vehicle drive away like that

good luck


Decipha,

What makes it junk? What are you seeing or looking for in a tune to determine its worth?

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fastsvo wrote:
decipha wrote:
heres your professional sct dyno tune

my previous assumption was correct, its junk, i would never let a vehicle drive away like that

good luck


Decipha,

What makes it junk? What are you seeing or looking for in a tune to determine its worth?


I am going to go out on a limb and say that he sees what most of see. The wot is probably dialed in but the normal every day cruise and driveability is garbage because not too many tuners spend any time on that area. If most dyno tuners that charge what they charge actually spent any considerable amount of time on driveability you either wouldnt need to have the tuning capabilities you have or they would put themselves out of business.

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Is that picked up when someone like you guys see stock values in those respective areas?

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fastsvo wrote:
Is that picked up when someone like you guys see stock values in those respective areas?


Stock values are a hint, but in all fairness; most sct tuners are booksmart but not street smart if that makes sense. In my oppinion they get the tune relativly close enough and rely on adaptive learning to take over and dial itself in. Thats the lazy way out with tuning capabilities. I for one am not a person that wants adaptive learning to have any control over any combo thats making decent power and for it to learn itself around the changes I make. I like to be in control of whats going on and what I expect. Others will have different oppinions but I always like to spend the time to do things right whether its for myslef or something I am putting my name on. You know as well as I do if everything was all good we wouldnt be having this conversation or this thread. Just my .02 and oppinion. :mrgreen:

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fastsvo wrote:
decipha wrote:
heres your professional sct dyno tune

my previous assumption was correct, its junk, i would never let a vehicle drive away like that

good luck


Decipha,

What makes it junk? What are you seeing or looking for in a tune to determine its worth?



first off your beginning with junk (stock foxbody tune is junk) so all the key areas need to be hit, fuel was never dialed in on the tune as its practically impossible the way they have it setup, all the 'tweaks' can be done regardless so any 'professional' dyno tuner should have a 'base' tune for more popular calibrations to start from. If you look in my sig i posted up my stock a9l2 calibration that i use for all my foxbody tunes, compare that to a stock a9l and you will see all the key areas the so called 'tuner' neglected to 'adjust'

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