lamrith wrote:I am surprised Jim has not chimed in. DIS can be made to work with the EEC-IV without buying the expensive EDIS module. Thereis a module in the (I believe) 93-95 Crown Vic's. IT is a module that controls the EDIS and sends a PIP type signal out to the EEC, just like a TFI module would. I have not done any work on it myself, I am just pulling from my limited memory what he told me.
lamrith wrote:OK, I just wanted to make sure, becuase Ford also sells a "aftermarket" unit called the edis8 which is around $350+. So the 96/97 explorer where EEC-IV? and used that module?? VERY interesting. I have a '98 ECU which is a EEC-V that has the DIS built into it, as do all the 98-01 explorers.(
lamrith wrote:I got a complete EFI kit with harness, ECU, coil packs sensors, crank trigger and even MAF for under $100. But then ran into problems getting the ECU to be twEECer able. And the 98+ (maybe earlier all had PATS so I could not even get it to fire off
lamrith wrote:Boy we are all crossed up!!
FMS now still makes and sells a stand alone EDIS module that is designed to plug into a EEC-IV to run crank trigger distributorless. It is an aftermarket item, maybe the $$ came down, but when I checked 2yrs ago it was in the $350 range and came with the module, crank trigger and a crank wheel. Lidio at Alternative Auto even connected one to I think a FAST system for his 351 and got great results.
Now you say the V6 explorers in 90-93 had EDIS. Then I think in 96 the V8 Explorer went EEC-V which like we both said already has DIS built in.
I WILL be checking EvilBay, do you just search for DIS? I got a distributor to fit under the hood now, but it would be nice to pull the Coil packs out and use those anyway. Gotta have the cool factor even with a car like mine.
THANKS FOR THE SCHEMATICS!!!
lamrith wrote:I wanted it so bad I spent 2 weeks trying to get a 97 cobra ECU (YEs a 4.6L modmotor ecu) to run my 5.0!! It ran, but ran like microwaved dog doo...
Carl wrote:Sabio,thanks for the diagrams! Now tha BAD news,while I was looking at the schematics,I was wondering what the SAWP was.So I went to the IATN site,read it is supposed be SAPW ( Spark Angle Pulse Width).From what I was reading,WITHOUT the SAPW signal (it's generated by the ECM) the EDIS module will go into LOS (Limited Operating Strategy) which means spark timing is limited to only 10*! I know that I have noticed an EDIS parameter in the Scalors function.Will enabling that,give us the much needed SAPW signal? And which ECM terminal will it be present at? Early versions of DIS didn't require a SAPW signal to function,unfortunately this was only available on the Dual plug 2.3 and the SHO. I guess we need to come up with some ideas! Carl
Carl wrote:Another question that I have is regarding the CID signal from the cam sensor.Am I going to have to worry about this?All of the DIS schematics that I have printed are using the CID signal.Four cylinder Mustangs use pin #5 for this,Crown Vics use pin #24.Any thoughts or comments would be appreciated.
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