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A9l or A9M with EDIS-8

Postby mustanghl » Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:15 pm

Hi,
i am new to this forum, for me it`s a great site.
So before i forget - i`m from Germany.

Maybe i be a newbie, but i whant to get a better ignition for my 1989 Mustang 5.0 !
I already have the coil bracket from the Explorer 5.0 with coils plus Edis-8 Modul.
Other parts i found and bought are:
Truck Balancer with 4 star Trigger wheel - changed to 36-1 wheel from Explorer
Explorer Crank Sensor
Explorer Cam Sensor

In the moment i drive with new builded engine and ECU Harness - i know that i have to make some more wiring for the EDIS-8 - but i don`t whant to do all this, if it would not work !

All what i was reading before - was just talking about it - but if i was no member of this forum before - i did not found out if it really works ?

It`s hard here in Germany, when you don`t have any friend who can help you out for V8 engines.
Hope that everybody understand my situation.

All i ever try is at first to find how to do it - and what parts i need - and then find a good source where i can buy it ! We don`t have any junkyards where i can go - just to pick up a missed part.
So what i know is the best to go with any 4.6 engine harness plus the ecu from it - but maybe somebody knows how to change settings in the A9L / A9M so the EEC-IV can do it also ?

It would be great if somebody can give me the wanted information - so i can get my project working.

Thank you
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Re: A9l or A9M with EDIS-8

Postby TwinSCs » Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:26 pm

Wire accordingly and change the scalar inside the tune.


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Re: A9l or A9M with EDIS-8

Postby mustanghl » Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:46 pm

Thank you.
But please let me ask, where i can find more infos what scalar`s have to be to changed ?

Thank you
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Re: A9l or A9M with EDIS-8

Postby Paulie » Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:51 pm

mustanghl wrote:Thank you.
But please let me ask, where i can find more infos what scalar`s have to be to changed ?

Thank you
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Re: A9l or A9M with EDIS-8

Postby mustanghl » Sun Mar 03, 2013 5:04 pm

Thank you
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Re: A9l or A9M with EDIS-8

Postby kevinruthbox » Sun Feb 23, 2014 10:13 pm

I have been looking over this series of posts and would like to go ahead with EDIS8 conversion.
To do this I will need plugs for EDIS module, Crank Sensor, Cam sensor and Ignition modules.
Does anyone have a set that I could buy or can anyone provide a place where I could get a set of plugs or a complete EDIS harness
Engine is 347


Thanks in advance

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Re: A9l or A9M with EDIS-8

Postby Stengun » Sun Feb 23, 2014 11:14 pm

Howdy Kevin,

You can get some of the connectors from Rockauto. The rest will have to come from the junkyard.

Instead of trying to rig up an EEC-IV ecu with EDIS why not use an EEC-V ecu with EDIS built into the ecu?

The CDAN4 strategy for the EEC-V ecu has been fully "cracked" and is the route that I and a couple of others have taken.

Good luck!

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Re: A9l or A9M with EDIS-8

Postby mustanghl » Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:34 am

Hi Kevin,
i bought most of my connectors at rjminjectiontech.com.
Hope that helps

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Re: A9l or A9M with EDIS-8

Postby LeadHead » Mon Feb 24, 2014 6:09 pm

The guy who runs RJMinjection disappeared off the face of the Earth. I believe his web-store has been shut down.
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Re: A9l or A9M with EDIS-8

Postby kevinruthbox » Mon Feb 24, 2014 8:51 pm

Paul

Thanks for your info

EEC-V is a possibility
What vehicle is the easiest to get wiring harness from and what vehicle is that ECU out of?
Vehicle is a GT40 replica so I will have to change wiring so everything faces forward.
Ideally I would like to get a set of connectors and start from the beginning with a decent wiring diagram as every thing will be back to front.
I have EDIS-8 module and coil packs but apart from that I can go either EEC-1V or EEC-V
I think 5.0 and 5.8 Broncos came out with EEC-V and EDIS ????
I think EEC-1V is getting a little long in the tooth so maybe EEC-V would be better.
Is there any issues with the standalone EEC-V you recommend e.g. security bits etc.
RJM website either down at the moment.
RON FRANCIS WIRING does a kit for EEC-V but its $895 which seems a bit heavy.
I guess I could talk to them and see if they will do a kit of connectors ???


Thanks KB :surprised:
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Re: A9l or A9M with EDIS-8

Postby LeadHead » Mon Feb 24, 2014 9:40 pm

'96 F-150s and Broncos were EEC-V, but they still used a TFI distributor.
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Re: A9l or A9M with EDIS-8

Postby jsa » Mon Feb 24, 2014 11:41 pm

RON FRANCIS WIRING does a kit for EEC-V but its $895 which seems a bit heavy.
I guess I could talk to them and see if they will do a kit of connectors ???


Rf Will sell connectors, I'm waiting for the frpt connectors I ordered to arrive
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Re: A9l or A9M with EDIS-8

Postby decipha » Tue Feb 25, 2014 9:19 am

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Re: A9l or A9M with EDIS-8

Postby Stengun » Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:44 am

Howdy Kevin,

kevinruthbox wrote:Paul

Thanks for your info

EEC-V is a possibility
What vehicle is the easiest to get wiring harness from and what vehicle is that ECU out of?
Vehicle is a GT40 replica so I will have to change wiring so everything faces forward.
Ideally I would like to get a set of connectors and start from the beginning with a decent wiring diagram as every thing will be back to front.
I have EDIS-8 module and coil packs but apart from that I can go either EEC-1V or EEC-V
I think 5.0 and 5.8 Broncos came out with EEC-V and EDIS ????
I think EEC-1V is getting a little long in the tooth so maybe EEC-V would be better.
Is there any issues with the standalone EEC-V you recommend e.g. security bits etc.
RJM website either down at the moment.
RON FRANCIS WIRING does a kit for EEC-V but its $895 which seems a bit heavy.
I guess I could talk to them and see if they will do a kit of connectors ???


Thanks KB :surprised:


An easy to get to engine harness is one out of a '96 Lincoln Town Car. The ECU extends through the dash into the engine compartment and is easy to pull.

The only "problem" with the TC's engine harness is that the plug to the ecu doesn't have a pin for the tach and the "tail" of the harness that runs from the engine to the ecu plug is very short.

I'm building a Factory Five Racing Spyder and I needed a longer tail than the one that the TC's harness so I built a custom harness and used the ecu plug from a '96 T-bird w/ a 4.6 V-8. I also used an EEC-V ecu w/ the CDAN4 strategy and SailorBob's definition and decipha's EEC-V/CDAN4 tune.

Most of the '96-'97 V-8 T-birds and Mustang GTs use the CDAN4 strategy and the one from the T-bird are pretty easy to find in a local Pick-N-Pull junkyard for under $35.00. Or you can get them for a '96-97 GT from car-part.com for about $50.00.

For a Cam sync I modified an MSD cam sync plug which used a Hall effect signal to a VR signal.

HTH.

Here's a link to my Spyder build thread. It has a bunch of pictures.

http://www.ffcars.com/forums/41-ffr-spy ... build.html


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Re: A9l or A9M with EDIS-8

Postby kevinruthbox » Wed Mar 12, 2014 6:57 pm

Paul

I have located enough connectors to build my own wiring harness and I will head down that track.
Basically what I have is every thing that would normally mate up to an A9L type ECU.
All I need to find now is a new 104 Pin connector
From looking at EBAY US there is a lot of EECV ECUs available.
I note you used EEC-V CZH3 to run CDAN4 strategy. Is there any better ECU to start with?

Is there any EEC-V ecu's that are 60 pin and run CDAN4 strategy ??

Thanks in advance for your help

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Re: A9l or A9M with EDIS-8

Postby Stengun » Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:32 am

Howdy Kevin,

I need to update my sig line because I switched from the CZH3, which is from a '96 TownCar to a FTE1 which is from a '97 T-bird because I couldn't get my AutoMeter tach to work right with the CZH3. ( Lincoln TC didn't have a tach ).

Not sure which calibration would be best, it shouldn't matter too much since I'm using decipha's ZXA5/CDAN4 base tune.

Searching eBay US? I guess your not a local?

All the EEC-V use a 104 pin plug. That's why it's easier to use a harness from a '96 TownCar or a T-bird.

My engine harness started live as a EEC-IV 4.6 V-8 with a 60 wire/pin connector and over period of a couple of weeks I soldered the wires to a 104 pin EEC-V plugs plus I added the additional wires for the EEC-V.

I ain't no expert ( Look, a double negitive! ) in the field of ecu's but I do have mine running but I still have a lot to do and learn.

Paul
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