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by cgrey8
Fri Jul 20, 2018 10:54 am
Forum: Tuning the EEC....
Topic: Where To Begin?
Replies: 10
Views: 371

Re: Where To Begin?

It's hard to say this with certitude, but small values are generally not absolute advance values. It's only in really odd cases where you are literally trying to command a spark advance of, say 3 degrees BTDC. And in these cases, the value will usually be in a table of larger values. And thus it's p...
by cgrey8
Fri Jul 20, 2018 5:05 am
Forum: Tuning the EEC....
Topic: Where To Begin?
Replies: 10
Views: 371

Re: Where To Begin?

The other thing that will give you a clue is what the numbers currently are. If you currently have values in the teens and 20s, you can be fairly confident that at no point in a tune is the tune interested in doing something 15-20 degrees AFTER TDC.
by cgrey8
Thu Jul 19, 2018 12:57 pm
Forum: Tuning the EEC....
Topic: Where To Begin?
Replies: 10
Views: 371

Re: Where To Begin?

I should specify that when I say a positive number describes degrees of advance, that's using my tuning tool, BE. Your tool may present that value differently and they have the ability to do just that.
by cgrey8
Wed Jul 18, 2018 7:45 am
Forum: Hardware Discussions
Topic: My ramblings about LED headlight conversions
Replies: 22
Views: 1475

Re: My ramblings about LED headlight conversions

A follow up on this topic. I've now run these lights for a few months now. They are still just absolutely awesome. The adjustment is such that I'm no longer getting bright-lighted. But they still give far better light coverage than the halogen bulbs ever did for both dim and bright. And I believe I ...
by cgrey8
Tue Jul 17, 2018 8:23 pm
Forum: Hardware Discussions
Topic: Bluetooth adapter for the Moates Quarterhorse
Replies: 31
Views: 7427

Re: Bluetooth adapter for the Moates Quarterhorse

I wish I could give the SL raves. But I just can't. Both Craig and Clint have always been very supportive and answered all my questions. But the SL just doesn't work the way I need it to with BE. So I cannot recommend it for people using BE AND wanting to see SL values in realtime on the dashboard.
by cgrey8
Tue Jul 17, 2018 4:49 pm
Forum: Hardware Discussions
Topic: Bluetooth adapter for the Moates Quarterhorse
Replies: 31
Views: 7427

Re: Bluetooth adapter for the Moates Quarterhorse

To follow up on this rather old post, I've been using Bluetooth for quite some time now so I've got some use time under my belt to share. First off, the changes Clint made to BE work great. It simply performs "retries" when it gets back messages it doesn't like (i.e. NACKs). The downside is Bluetoot...
by cgrey8
Fri Jul 13, 2018 4:00 pm
Forum: Tuning the EEC....
Topic: Where To Begin?
Replies: 10
Views: 371

Re: Where To Begin?

Higher numbers are greater advance. So if you have a value in your tune of, say 10, that's 13 BTDC. So increasing to 13 sparks the plug 3 degrees EARLIER. It's exactly the same as if you twist the distributor from 10 BTDC to where a timing light shows 13 BTDC.
by cgrey8
Wed Jul 04, 2018 8:56 am
Forum: Tuning the EEC....
Topic: Setting idle speed on GUFC strategy--should be simple?
Replies: 5
Views: 176

Re: Setting idle speed on GUFC strategy--should be simple?

I recall some threads talking about wiring differences between manual and automatic wiring harnesses. One powered a pin, another grounded the pin maybe? It's been a LONG time since I dealt with that. Anyway, there's also a scalar to setting your transmission type. Make sure that's consistent with yo...
by cgrey8
Tue Jul 03, 2018 2:04 pm
Forum: EECGeeks
Topic: Reuse old EEC V - move flash to new EEC-V possible?
Replies: 2
Views: 210

Re: Reuse old EEC V - move flash to new EEC-V possible?

For way less than the price you'd pay for a new EEC from the dealer, my guess is you could buy a Moates chip and have some one write a stock tune to it with PATS disabled. Talk to Adam at POPSRACING and see how much he'd charge to do that.
by cgrey8
Tue Jul 03, 2018 12:50 pm
Forum: Hardware Discussions
Topic: using a 4.6 ecu and harness on a 351w?
Replies: 12
Views: 310

Re: using a 4.6 ecu and harness on a 351w?

The other question is what does OBD2 compliant mean in this case. Where I live the testing has changed over the years. Originally they just checked for a PASS code in the EEC. Now they want to see a PASS code plus make sure all the monitors have completed. A 1996 F150 may not have all the monitors ...
by cgrey8
Tue Jul 03, 2018 12:07 pm
Forum: Hardware Discussions
Topic: using a 4.6 ecu and harness on a 351w?
Replies: 12
Views: 310

Re: using a 4.6 ecu and harness on a 351w?

That's getting close!
Now the next big question is, is it MAF or SD-based?
Looking at Google-images of "1996 F150 engines", it looks like it just might be MAF which means we have a winner!
by cgrey8
Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:35 am
Forum: Hardware Discussions
Topic: using a 4.6 ecu and harness on a 351w?
Replies: 12
Views: 310

Re: using a 4.6 ecu and harness on a 351w?

Paulie wrote:
Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:20 am
1996 F150 5.8L was OBD2 and had a distributor/TFI ignition system.
What strategy and EEC did they use? And is it EEC-IV or EEC-V?
by cgrey8
Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:54 am
Forum: Lounge
Topic: 460 efi project - need some advice
Replies: 14
Views: 462

Re: 460 efi project - need some advice

I have ZERO experience with Ford SD systems. However from what people say about them, they are a pain to deal with...enough so that people routinely convert from SD to MAF to escape them. I wish I had the experience of using them to talk intelligently about what it is, exactly, that makes them so ba...
by cgrey8
Tue Jul 03, 2018 5:19 am
Forum: Hardware Discussions
Topic: using a 4.6 ecu and harness on a 351w?
Replies: 12
Views: 310

Re: using a 4.6 ecu and harness on a 351w?

From your previous thread, the sticking point isn't running a 4.6L or 5.0L EEC on the 351w. It's that you didn't want to go the EDIS (coil pack) route and thus are trying to maintain a TFI distributor on the 351w while also running an OBD-II compliant EEC. That's the killer combination that I'm not ...
by cgrey8
Mon Jul 02, 2018 2:36 pm
Forum: Lounge
Topic: 460 efi project - need some advice
Replies: 14
Views: 462

Re: 460 efi project - need some advice

I don't have a specific suggestion which way to go on this one, but I do have a question that's related to your current setup. It's 1996, yet it's EEC-IV? Is it OBD-II? Just looking at pictures on the Internet, it appears the 1996 7.5L was TFI-ignition. I'm asking because another person has a questi...
by cgrey8
Mon Jul 02, 2018 2:24 pm
Forum: Hardware Discussions
Topic: swapping a 351w into an e36, what ecu should i use?
Replies: 5
Views: 142

Re: swapping a 351w into an e36, what ecu should i use?

That depends on your EEC's capabilities. The only fuel-only ECMs I'm aware of are specialty units like those intended to control CNG injectors. Those usually work, in tandem, with the car's factory ECM. In fact, the factory ECM "believes" it is controlling the injectors, but it isn't. Instead, it's ...
by cgrey8
Mon Jul 02, 2018 1:31 pm
Forum: Hardware Discussions
Topic: swapping a 351w into an e36, what ecu should i use?
Replies: 5
Views: 142

Re: swapping a 351w into an e36, what ecu should i use?

Maintaining the OBD-II pushes you to an EEC-V which was introduced about the same (1996) time OBD-II became a requirement. There were a few early adopters like the 95 Rangers which were EEC-V and OBD-II. That's the only early adopter I know of. It's going to be important that you get some info about...
by cgrey8
Mon Jul 02, 2018 6:24 am
Forum: Hardware Discussions
Topic: swapping a 351w into an e36, what ecu should i use?
Replies: 5
Views: 142

Re: swapping a 351w into an e36, what ecu should i use?

It all depends on what else you are trying to accomplish. Here are the things to know before making such a selection: Will you be tuning this yourself or having it tuned? Is this straight-up track or will it need to be road-worthy? If road worthy, will it be a daily driver? Will it need to pass emis...
by cgrey8
Fri Jun 29, 2018 11:37 am
Forum: Tuning the EEC....
Topic: Explorer eecv TC lockup problems
Replies: 3
Views: 246

Re: Explorer eecv TC lockup problems

I have no clue what setting has gotten messed up to cause this. But this level of info is what somebody in the know would like to have.

But even more importantly, can you post the tune and indicate what strategy the tune follows?
by cgrey8
Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:06 am
Forum: Tuning the EEC....
Topic: Where To Begin?
Replies: 10
Views: 371

Re: Where To Begin?

I am not an expert on anything EEC-V and have ZERO experience with the newer stuff. And when it comes to the interaction of the various spark tables, there are rules that you need to learn as to which tables are effective when. I think there's even a payload item you can datalog that tells you the "...
by cgrey8
Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:12 am
Forum: Software Issues & Support
Topic: PSA about BE version 5.136 and Sailorbob Defs
Replies: 20
Views: 1132

Re: PSA about BE version 5.136 and Sailorbob Defs

86GT wrote:
Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:32 pm
Bob is still on a Windows 95 PC
I interpreted that as a joke.
by cgrey8
Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:07 pm
Forum: Tuning the EEC....
Topic: 2000 5.0 ranger swap questions about EECV
Replies: 53
Views: 5830

Re: 2000 5.0 ranger swap questions about EECV

Instead of continuing this thread with a completely unrelated problem, start a new thread to track the new problem. Feel free to reference details you've already included in this thread, but track the new problem as a new thread.
by cgrey8
Wed Jun 06, 2018 2:23 pm
Forum: Tuning the EEC....
Topic: calculating load stopped at 150?
Replies: 4
Views: 200

Re: calculating load stopped at 150?

I don't know if this is related, but this sounds similar to an issue I remember from years ago in GUFx stuff related to the Airflow Max vs RPM Clip (FN037) function. Raising all right-hand column values in that function to their max fixed the issue I'm remembering. I don't know that this issue ever ...
by cgrey8
Tue Jun 05, 2018 10:52 am
Forum: Lounge
Topic: The Engineer's Engineer...
Replies: 5
Views: 535

Re: The Engineer's Engineer...

...Definitely watch the name brand teardowns like the Fein, Dyson and Hilti. It's amazing where some companies cut cost to reinforce other areas. His videos are so enjoyable, it's hard to pick a favorite 😁... Yes it is. I believe all his teardowns are prefixed in their Youtube title as BOLTR . I've...
by cgrey8
Wed May 16, 2018 5:15 am
Forum: Tuning the EEC....
Topic: Lambse Too Rich accross the board
Replies: 6
Views: 374

Re: Lambse Too Rich accross the board

When you say your WB is off, what do you mean? Are you saying it is reporting values that are off from what your LAMBSEs are commanding? If so, then that's to be expected during Injector param and MAF tuning...assuming you've disabled Adaptive Learning which I highly recommend you do during this pha...
by cgrey8
Tue May 15, 2018 5:21 am
Forum: Tuning the EEC....
Topic: Lambse Too Rich accross the board
Replies: 6
Views: 374

Re: Lambse Too Rich accross the board

How low did you take the curve? The stock 19lb EV1 injector curve in GUFx is WAY too high for most EV6 injectors. I had to lower my curve to where the high voltages were VERY near 0. The other option to raise idle LAMBSEs is to increase the low slope. But now you are talking about coordinating the h...
by cgrey8
Mon May 14, 2018 6:59 pm
Forum: Tuning the EEC....
Topic: Lambse Too Rich accross the board
Replies: 6
Views: 374

Re: Lambse Too Rich accross the board

If I had to guess, I'd say it's running a stock Injector Offset curve. That would be my answer if this were GUFx. I assume CBAZA has one too. Anyway, try subtracting all points in that curve WAY down and see what happens. Try to preserve the curve shape, just subtract all points by the same value. J...
by cgrey8
Mon May 14, 2018 1:07 pm
Forum: Hardware Discussions
Topic: Replace 60lb with 80lb?
Replies: 3
Views: 465

Re: Replace 60lb with 80lb?

So I 1/2 right. It wasn't the injectors at fault...but it wasn't ignition either as I was betting it would be.

Glad you found the issue...and that you didn't spend money throwing parts at it that it didn't need.
by cgrey8
Mon May 14, 2018 6:21 am
Forum: Hardware Discussions
Topic: Replace 60lb with 80lb?
Replies: 3
Views: 465

Re: Replace 60lb with 80lb?

I have no experience with the Deka 60s or 80s, so I cannot speak from experience here. So I'll try to caveat where I think appropriate. Theoretically, you are right, you should be able to swap the injectors and then swap the values in the tune associated with your injectors (hi/lo slopes, breakpoint...
by cgrey8
Wed May 02, 2018 11:02 am
Forum: Hardware Discussions
Topic: TunerPro isn't communicating with QH
Replies: 11
Views: 526

Re: TunerPro isn't communicating with QH

Dave at Moates got me up and running software and hardware were fine did not download enough files, missing bin file and xdf file, didn't think this wold be so complicated Holley and xp tuners is soo much simplier only need one file There's a reason for that. Holley is a single company producing a ...