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by cgrey8
Thu Aug 23, 2018 6:11 am
Forum: Tuning the EEC....
Topic: Just installed a wideband and it's showing really lean at idle.
Replies: 40
Views: 4569

Re: Just installed a wideband and it's showing really lean at idle.

Mitchb wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 11:44 pm
So, I have a question: does your sampling of the exhaust accurately represent the A/F in the engine, particularly at low engine speed?
Just curious, how would he know that?
by cgrey8
Fri Aug 17, 2018 9:18 am
Forum: Tuning the EEC....
Topic: Logging ethanol content
Replies: 15
Views: 1975

Re: Logging ethanol content

If the sensor is is 0-5v, then the options are a whole lot simpler. You can either use an available EEC input (i.e. the EVP sensor input) or external A/Ds like DataQ or Moates Superlogger. Incorporating the SL into softwares like BinaryEditor are still being worked on, the only existing solution tha...
by cgrey8
Fri Aug 17, 2018 6:47 am
Forum: Tuning the EEC....
Topic: Logging ethanol content
Replies: 15
Views: 1975

Re: Logging ethanol content

Cgrey8....you bring up valid points for an average consumer street driven vehicle. But again it's not likely the average Motorhead I going to stray from his beverage of choice... If it's a race vehicle (amateur or pro), I would tend to agree. but if it's a daily driver or even a fun weekend vehicle...
by cgrey8
Thu Aug 16, 2018 6:34 pm
Forum: Tuning the EEC....
Topic: Logging ethanol content
Replies: 15
Views: 1975

Re: Logging ethanol content

As he said, you don't want to wait around a long time for the EEC to learn what fuel you just filled up with. Assuming an extreme of filling an empty tank with E85 after running gasoline, a true FFV tune would be able to monitor the fuel ethnaol concentration and when a sharp change in content is de...
by cgrey8
Thu Aug 16, 2018 5:01 am
Forum: Hardware Discussions
Topic: Bluetooth adapter for the Moates Quarterhorse
Replies: 43
Views: 14515

Re: Bluetooth adapter for the Moates Quarterhorse

I've had BT setup on the QH for quite some time. The only reason I haven't used the SL in the truck is because the ability to log it in realtime along-side the QH from BE wasn't there. I emailed Clint and he said there's still issues with BE on Win10 that he's sorting out. He said he'd get me a copy...
by cgrey8
Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:24 pm
Forum: Hardware Discussions
Topic: Bluetooth connecting to an Innovate LC-1
Replies: 29
Views: 4535

Re: Bluetooth adapter for the Moates Quarterhorse

Im not sure how your connectivity between devices is but I assure you it all works on my end. Let me know if I need to go more in depth on how to set it all up. In my last post, I wasn't talking about using the Sl. I was talking about testing my fabri-cobbled Bluetooth solution to connect the Innov...
by cgrey8
Wed Aug 15, 2018 7:03 pm
Forum: Hardware Discussions
Topic: Bluetooth connecting to an Innovate LC-1
Replies: 29
Views: 4535

Re: Bluetooth adapter for the Moates Quarterhorse

Well followup. It doesn't work. At least not with Innovate devices. It connects, it attempts to talk, but the Innovate driver is rather impatient and expects the COM ports to connect and immediately have the device available. But when the COM port represents a Bluetooth device, opening the port is w...
by cgrey8
Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:06 pm
Forum: Hardware Discussions
Topic: Bluetooth connecting to an Innovate LC-1
Replies: 29
Views: 4535

Re: Bluetooth adapter for the Moates Quarterhorse

Why run the lc1 through BT? If it works, only because I already have the hardware to do it and I don't have to worry about translation error between the Innovate outputting voltage and the SL seeing a slightly different voltage and thus my recording the AFR differently than Innovate initially inten...
by cgrey8
Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:19 am
Forum: Hardware Discussions
Topic: Bluetooth adapter for the Moates Quarterhorse
Replies: 43
Views: 14515

Re: Bluetooth adapter for the Moates Quarterhorse

My main question is how do I get that working for myself since I have a SL and would like to use it. If I do find that this bluetooth connection to the Innovate LC-1 works, I'll likely keep it and run the QH/SL combo on bluetooth as well as the Innovate on its own bluetooth adapter. My computer can ...
by cgrey8
Tue Aug 14, 2018 4:48 pm
Forum: Tuning the EEC....
Topic: LAMBSE 1 & 2 Going Lean in CL
Replies: 8
Views: 1556

Re: LAMBSE 1 & 2 Going Lean in CL

...The answer is a little convoluted but you have to think of Lambse and STFT as the same. Lambse is a modifier of Lambda which is 1 or in our Eec-iv 14.64 expressed as an AFR. The ECU in closed loop is always targeting 1 or 14.64. Lambse commands what it thinks you need to achieve unity (1). So ye...
by cgrey8
Tue Aug 14, 2018 11:37 am
Forum: Hardware Discussions
Topic: Bluetooth connecting to an Innovate LC-1
Replies: 29
Views: 4535

Re: Bluetooth adapter for the Moates Quarterhorse

Most of this is lessons-learned and ramblings I want to get recorded somewhere before I forget them just in case I need them for myself later. And the hope is, that these details help someone else in the future which is why I'm talking about all this. That said...I fabri-cobbled these electronic leg...
by cgrey8
Mon Aug 13, 2018 5:10 pm
Forum: BE/EA Feature Requests & Suggestions
Topic: EA Slope Calculation Offset Input Option
Replies: 10
Views: 2083

Re: EA Slope Calculation Offset Input Option

Not a problem. It's why I hang around.
by cgrey8
Mon Aug 13, 2018 5:17 am
Forum: BE/EA Feature Requests & Suggestions
Topic: EA Slope Calculation Offset Input Option
Replies: 10
Views: 2083

Re: EA Slope Calculation Offset Input Option

BTW, I re-read my comments on offset after having sleep, and I realize I did a horrible job of explaining myself. What I was trying to say is that offset and low slope are dominant at low Inj PWs. And as PWs get higher, the high slope becomes the dominant decider of fuel delivery, and both the low s...
by cgrey8
Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:01 pm
Forum: BE/EA Feature Requests & Suggestions
Topic: EA Slope Calculation Offset Input Option
Replies: 10
Views: 2083

Re: EA Slope Calculation Offset Input Option

Ramblings are OK. Sometimes we need a sounding board just to throw our ideas up and then see how they land. As for Z_AFR, think of that as an alternative to adjusting your slopes. Logically, they are doing something very different. But in practice, they do pretty much the same thing. In fact for tun...
by cgrey8
Sat Aug 11, 2018 8:04 pm
Forum: BE/EA Feature Requests & Suggestions
Topic: EA Slope Calculation Offset Input Option
Replies: 10
Views: 2083

Re: EA Slope Calculation Offset Input Option

You mentioned offset, is there a chance you have too much Injector Offset messing with things? I had that, but it didn't present as you are describing. On my setup, excessive offset resulted in EA calculating VERY steep low slope values and a transition to a slope closer to my actual injector sizes....
by cgrey8
Sat Aug 11, 2018 10:50 am
Forum: BE/EA Feature Requests & Suggestions
Topic: EA Slope Calculation Offset Input Option
Replies: 10
Views: 2083

Re: EA Slope Calculation Offset Input Option

I could be misinterpreting what you are saying, but the fact that you say you are tuning for two different size injectors suggests that your slope values aren't right. When this occurs, you get conditions where a given MAF value is lean at certain RPM/Loads and rich at others. As you might suspect, ...
by cgrey8
Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:25 pm
Forum: Hardware Discussions
Topic: Bluetooth connecting to an Innovate LC-1
Replies: 29
Views: 4535

Re: Bluetooth adapter for the Moates Quarterhorse

I got all 3 of my parts from China. And I realized I got the wrong gender RS232 DB9 connector. So if you attempt this, make sure to get the male DB9 connector, not the female. I have a gender-changer so no biggie for me. But if you are buying new, be aware you can buy the correct gender adapter. You...
by cgrey8
Mon Aug 06, 2018 5:41 pm
Forum: Tuning the EEC....
Topic: FN346 ....PIP Multplier Larger/Smaller values?
Replies: 7
Views: 1561

Re: FN346 ....PIP Multplier Larger/Smaller values?

Interesting. I minimized my Jump functions to almost nothing and let the majority of my adjustment be from the ramp rate. I reduced my amplitude by over 1/2 and that had a similar result. Oh the other thing I did was reduce my HEGO switch point voltage down to .2v so even a slightly rich bias still ...
by cgrey8
Sat Aug 04, 2018 3:37 pm
Forum: Tuning the EEC....
Topic: FN346 ....PIP Multplier Larger/Smaller values?
Replies: 7
Views: 1561

Re: FN346 ....PIP Multplier Larger/Smaller values?

I have to admit, I don't recall ever messing with this function. And when I compare my tune to either an X3Z or A9L, they are the same. So I guess I never messed with it. What I'm confused on is what the absolute value of Bias/Amplitude gives me and why that relationship would have an affect on the ...
by cgrey8
Thu Aug 02, 2018 12:10 pm
Forum: Tuning the EEC....
Topic: Load calculation/RPM reporting?
Replies: 15
Views: 2296

Re: Load calculation/RPM reporting?

My translation of that is it allows more utilization of the cells in the OL fuel table. Just to exaggerate a little, if actual load ranges from say 1000RPM/70% then goes up to 4000RPM/150%, then there'd be cells above 70% for the low RPMs that are unattainable and therefore go to waste. However if y...
by cgrey8
Thu Aug 02, 2018 11:10 am
Forum: Tuning the EEC....
Topic: Load calculation/RPM reporting?
Replies: 15
Views: 2296

Re: Load calculation/RPM reporting?

...do you also set your load values for fn072a to the same values as fn071 or do you leave fn072a at default value? ... For those not familiar, those are the Load/Load% scaling functions for Spark and Fuel. And yes, mine are ALMOST identical. The only difference between them is the lowest Load row ...
by cgrey8
Thu Aug 02, 2018 8:38 am
Forum: Tuning the EEC....
Topic: Change maf or injector slopes
Replies: 40
Views: 5064

Re: Change maf or injector slopes

...I turned up my fuel pressure to 50 because i thought i was running out of fuel, so i was seeing if i upped the pressure i might see a change... Keep in mind that if the fuel pump is undersized, raising the fuel pressure isn't going to help. In fact, it's going to do the opposite. Pump flow curve...
by cgrey8
Thu Aug 02, 2018 7:40 am
Forum: Tuning the EEC....
Topic: Load calculation/RPM reporting?
Replies: 15
Views: 2296

Re: Load calculation/RPM reporting?

There are often two "Load" values that tunes have used and differentiated between. In the older EECs, they are referred to as Load and Load%. In newer EECs, the Load% I think is called PerLoad. But basically Load is as you described however they also take into account the declared CID of the engine....
by cgrey8
Tue Jul 31, 2018 11:57 am
Forum: Lounge
Topic: working on 94 ford lightning need help
Replies: 6
Views: 1948

Re: working on 94 ford lightning need help

So if you have a Quarterhorse, use that to tune the EEC with since it'll let you datalog and write tunes to it via USB while staying mounted on the EEC. When you've got it running good enough, either leave the QH in place as the EEC's chip OR burn your final tune to a Moates chip and replace the QH ...
by cgrey8
Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:06 am
Forum: Tuning the EEC....
Topic: How do i tune the Ignition Timing ?
Replies: 11
Views: 2276

Re: How do i tune the Ignition Timing ?

TunerPro and BE are similar. Personally, I prefer BE. But that's only because I've been using it for so many years and I understand why it works the way it does. Much of the limitations in how data is presented is because the original Ford tunes were never intended to be intuitive and easy to work w...
by cgrey8
Thu Jul 26, 2018 7:31 am
Forum: Tuning the EEC....
Topic: Need help, light throttle/ decel pulls fuel
Replies: 29
Views: 3719

Re: Need help, light throttle/ decel pulls fuel

I haven't confirmed this by actually looking, but I do recall that A9L had DFSO, technically enabled, but effectively disabled given the allowed RPM was higher than anybody would sustain. And I believe it was that minimum RPM scalar that basically disabled it. The X3Z, however had DFSO enabled and i...
by cgrey8
Tue Jul 24, 2018 11:11 am
Forum: Tuning the EEC....
Topic: Logging ethanol content
Replies: 15
Views: 1975

Re: Logging ethanol content

The last I heard, the only FlexFuel sensor out there was the one used by GM. I think Ford might have also had a FF sensor, but it wasn't as useful. I could be mis-remembering this, but I think theirs was frequency based and GM's was voltage based making the GM sensor are simpler to work with. Now he...
by cgrey8
Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:48 am
Forum: Software Issues & Support
Topic: Changing Z_ADPSW in a GUFB tune corrupts the view of unrelated table values
Replies: 16
Views: 2021

Re: Changing Z_ADPSW in a GUFB tune corrupts the view of unrelated table values

If you get a procedure, post the procedure in a new thread. This way, if others run into this issue and think to search for it, they might find someone else that has found it as well AND when it's fixed, they'll know which version fixes it. But please do not try to continue this thread with a new an...
by cgrey8
Mon Jul 23, 2018 4:19 pm
Forum: Software Issues & Support
Topic: Changing Z_ADPSW in a GUFB tune corrupts the view of unrelated table values
Replies: 16
Views: 2021

Re: Changing Z_ADPSW in a GUFB tune corrupts the view of unrelated table values

Can you give us details about what happened and what exactly it is that was "triggering" this behavior? I assume it wasn't just Z_ADPSW that would cause this. BTW, the BE download page is still showing the version as 5.137. The file that's downloading is just setup.exe, so I can't tell if the actual...
by cgrey8
Mon Jul 23, 2018 5:07 am
Forum: Software Issues & Support
Topic: BE and a USB hub
Replies: 2
Views: 1195

Re: BE and a USB hub

I tried to use a cheap USB hub years ago, but it never worked well. It worked, but was inconsistent. The throughput was crap and devices would, for no reason, fall off the connection and sometimes never reappear until the hub was disconnected and reconnected. But this was back in the USB1.1 days. I ...