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dataloging in be with mapping

Post by jeeptech77 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 1:57 pm

i am getting an error when trying to open a datalog useing the mapping feature in be any suggestions or help would be appreciated
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Re: dataloging in be with mapping

Post by EDS50 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 2:27 pm

Does your datalog contain the missing parameters?
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Re: dataloging in be with mapping

Post by skunk » Sat Jan 13, 2018 2:41 pm

I can't see the bottom but it appears you have not defined the result based on the word "none" in the error. If your looking for AFR you define the pid for your WB. If you want commanded define it as Lambse.

As Ed stated....the log must contain the parameters.

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Re: dataloging in be with mapping

Post by EDS50 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 2:46 pm

Post the datalog your using so we can take a look at it when you get a chance.
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Re: dataloging in be with mapping

Post by jeeptech77 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:44 pm

i tried to attach a log file but im getting a file to large error
i have tried many diff parameters and finally figured out that load is my issue
i can get the graph to populate for example i choose tp rpm afr
this is a la3 setup and uses a vane airflow meter
i am assuming that this is how my strategy gets its load reading
the bap is bap only
i will send a screen shot of my dataloging settings
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Re: dataloging in be with mapping

Post by jeeptech77 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:50 pm

i would also like to add that svo john the maker of the sd code is the one who told me to use megalog viewer hd as that is what he uses
he has no interest in helping trouble shoot anything related to be anymore as he has been out of it for years

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Re: dataloging in be with mapping

Post by EDS50 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:26 pm

I am completely confused now......I didn't realize BE required troubleshooting :confused:
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Re: dataloging in be with mapping

Post by jeeptech77 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:48 pm

ed johns says that clint continuously makes changes in be then the la3 strategy and cal files as well as his speed density code do not work correctly until he goes and updates the file
he says this is why he no longer helps people
a perfect example of this is when i bought BE i could not use the la3 strategy it had a check sum error
dave blundel broke it down into a spreadsheet found the exact issue and i had to get clint to change it so the check sum error was fixed
this happened again months later when i updated be and i had to get clint to fix the file
i am not a bin hacker and have no desire to be i just want to be able to use the software as its designed
i have not learned all of its features im not a pro level be user and never claimed to be im just trying to reach out for help since the help file has not helped me and i have honestly spent time to try to resolve it myself with no luck
hope this clears up the confusion

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Re: dataloging in be with mapping

Post by EDS50 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:59 pm

Never heard of Ed John's. Have you tried reaching out to sailorbob or coretuning for a legitimate version of LA3 since that is what you are using?
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Re: dataloging in be with mapping

Post by jeeptech77 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:02 pm

i found a smaller log file for those who are willing to give it a shot
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Re: dataloging in be with mapping

Post by jeeptech77 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:17 pm

EDS550 is you're name ed ?
i am referring to svo john also known as john sheffler
when summer gets here and im ready to make more changes im going sd
i have no interest in mass air
and i am using the la3 copy provided by clint with the exception of mapping it has been fine

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Re: dataloging in be with mapping

Post by EDS50 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:21 pm

I have no problem opening your log with 0 errors in EA v.5.7.0... You need to configure your setting tab to duplicate bank 2 from bank 1 and define 4cyl.
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Re: dataloging in be with mapping

Post by EDS50 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:23 pm

jeeptech77 wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:48 pm
ed johns says that clint continuously makes changes in be then the la3 strategy and cal files as well as his speed density code do not work correctly until he goes and updates the file
he says this is why he no longer helps people
a perfect example of this is when i bought BE i could not use the la3 strategy it had a check sum error
dave blundel broke it down into a spreadsheet found the exact issue and i had to get clint to change it so the check sum error was fixed
this happened again months later when i updated be and i had to get clint to fix the file
i am not a bin hacker and have no desire to be i just want to be able to use the software as its designed
i have not learned all of its features im not a pro level be user and never claimed to be im just trying to reach out for help since the help file has not helped me and i have honestly spent time to try to resolve it myself with no luck
hope this clears up the confusion
Its EDS50 and yes, My name is Ed. I was quoting the name YOU mentioned. I don't know who John Sheffler is either. Never heard of him.
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Re: dataloging in be with mapping

Post by jsa » Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:24 pm

jeeptech77 wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:48 pm
clint continuously makes changes in be
If the def author no longer updates the def to suit the latest revisions to BE then there is no choice but to stay at the version of BE that works with the def and never update BE again.
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Re: dataloging in be with mapping

Post by EDS50 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:29 pm

....Or purchase a current and continuously supported definition. Not everything is free and as well supported as the GUFx defs.....Huge thanks to CGREY8.
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Re: dataloging in be with mapping

Post by skunk » Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:43 pm

Try this one....I updated it a few years ago to work with BE v5. I used it with Tweecer but never tested with QH. I believe John has older versions of BE on his Yahoo group if you need to go that direction.
https://xa.yimg.com/df/2point3Tweecer/L ... e=download

Let me know if that download works....if not I will try to upload my copy when I get to my computer.

I will be honest with you and say it's not worth the effort to convert to SD or MAF using the code hacks. It's a fun learning experience but your still limited. You would be better served finding a GURE or GUFx ecu and make the changes to support the 2.3L. Biggest advantage is the extra Injector outputs if you need supplemental fuel and HighZ injector drivers.....that is if you feel the need to run a factory ECU. There are far better stand alone options out there specific to your application.

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Re: dataloging in be with mapping

Post by skunk » Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:53 pm

Hey Ed...this particular strategy has been adapted from the old PCMX definition for the EecTuner. It incorporates easy use functions to support the required bin hacks to run either MAF or SD. The supported definition is likely very similar to Derek's T23B which doesn't support the hacks.

SvoJohn used to pretty active on here and very supportive up to the point BE was no longer a free option.

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Re: dataloging in be with mapping

Post by EDS50 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:59 pm

skunk wrote:
Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:53 pm
Hey Ed...this particular strategy has been adapted from the old PCMX definition for the EecTuner. It incorporates easy use functions to support the required bin hacks to run either MAF or SD. The supported definition is likely very similar to Derek's T23B which doesn't support the hacks.

SvoJohn used to pretty active on here and very supportive up to the point BE was no longer a free option.

John
Good information to know.
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Re: dataloging in be with mapping

Post by skunk » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:44 pm

Thanks for letting me know.....here is the definition I have. If you open it with Excel you can read the revision history changes I added/modified.
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