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LA3_SD.BIN correct XDF file?

Post by TURBO COUPE » Mon May 31, 2021 7:43 am

Trying to open the LA3_SD.BIN file with the T23B.XDF but everything is all over the place and doesnt make sense. I can open a stock LA3 bin with the T23B xdf after modifying the bin size and base offset but no matter what i do i cant get the la3 sd bin to make sense. Could anyone help me with that? It would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: LA3_SD.BIN correct XDF file?

Post by tvrfan » Mon May 31, 2021 3:04 pm

In case it helps any, LA3 is one of my 'test set' of bins for my disassembler. Although not perfect yet, it does produce a useful listing of code and most of the data structures. Unfortunately it cannot tell you what each actual data structure does, but I have attached the listing and message file (which gives commands, so tells you what is where) in case this helps you sort it out.
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Re: LA3_SD.BIN correct XDF file?

Post by TURBO COUPE » Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:03 pm

Ok thank you ill check it out. I attached the two files in case anyone wants to look at or play with it. I am hoping to find someone firmilar with this bin and ecm. I just ordered an F3 and Jaybird earlier today trying to get it figured out before a track outting tomorrow.
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Re: LA3_SD.BIN correct XDF file?

Post by skunk » Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:34 pm

You won't be able to use that definition for the speed density bin. It missing the extra parameters you need.

If you compare the SD bin to a stock bin you will see a shit tonne of extra code.

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Re: LA3_SD.BIN correct XDF file?

Post by skunk » Wed Jun 02, 2021 1:23 pm

https://eectuning.org/forums/download/file.php?id=4606

Try the definition file I posted in the above thread. I believe it has all the MAF and SD parameters. Unfortunately it's written for BE and might not open properly in TunerPro.

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Re: LA3_SD.BIN correct XDF file?

Post by TURBO COUPE » Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:43 pm

Thank you, I will most likely be purchasing BE anyway so then Ill be able to take a look

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Re: LA3_SD.BIN correct XDF file?

Post by oharris » Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:00 pm

I tried all kinds of things trying to get an xdf that would work with the SD bin. Never did get it to work.
Project #1 '88 Mustang GT-40P heads, Explorer intake, Crane Compucam 2030, BBK Long tube Headers.
Project #2 '50 Willys Jeep CJ-3A '86 Mustang SVO swap. Convert to Speed Density?
Project #3 '87 Mustang GT Explorer 5.0 engine and EEC-V computer (other stuff TBD).
Project #4 '80 Porsche 924 Turbo, to EEC or not to EEC that is the question?

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Re: LA3_SD.BIN correct XDF file?

Post by EDS50 » Tue Aug 03, 2021 12:31 pm

ADX/XDF are intended for use with tunerpro. DEF/BIN are intended for use with BE. They can not be intermixed from my understanding.
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Re: LA3_SD.BIN correct XDF file?

Post by oharris » Tue Aug 03, 2021 1:13 pm

The ADX file is what I could never find.
Project #1 '88 Mustang GT-40P heads, Explorer intake, Crane Compucam 2030, BBK Long tube Headers.
Project #2 '50 Willys Jeep CJ-3A '86 Mustang SVO swap. Convert to Speed Density?
Project #3 '87 Mustang GT Explorer 5.0 engine and EEC-V computer (other stuff TBD).
Project #4 '80 Porsche 924 Turbo, to EEC or not to EEC that is the question?

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Re: LA3_SD.BIN correct XDF file?

Post by EDS50 » Tue Aug 03, 2021 1:25 pm

oharris wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 1:13 pm The ADX file is what I could never find.
That may be a tough one to find. Ive never seen one but havent looked too hard either.
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Re: LA3_SD.BIN correct XDF file?

Post by motorhead1991 » Tue Jan 18, 2022 11:20 pm

EDS50 wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 1:25 pm
oharris wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 1:13 pm The ADX file is what I could never find.
That may be a tough one to find. Ive never seen one but havent looked too hard either.
I was working on adapting Deciphas universal ADX to LA3 but I don't have one on the bench to confirm my testing.
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