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Binary editor

Post by 5.0ranger » Mon Aug 16, 2021 11:50 pm

Anyone have experience with binary editor? I am having issues with my only vehicle on it, try to write tune and saying that I'm out of tokens look at the list for use been used multiple times. I'm getting nowhere with this, Ready to go to another type of tuning software if nothing else.

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Re: Binary editor

Post by jsa » Tue Aug 17, 2021 1:51 am

If the definition you are using requires tokens then you need to purchase tokens.

Use a definition without tokens or, as you suggest, different tuning software and definition.

If tokens are not required by the definition, then it is a BE bug.
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Re: Binary editor

Post by 5.0ranger » Tue Aug 17, 2021 12:29 pm

When I bought everything, if I remember correctly. One token was unlimited changes for that vehicle. Only that vehicle, free time to get into it is at a minimum and when I do running into this it becomes frustrating. Any suggestions for different software? I just want it to run right, most shops anymore won't touch anything old.

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Re: Binary editor

Post by jsa » Tue Aug 17, 2021 10:19 pm

Other software requires another definition.

You've paid unlimited use on one vehicle. Demand it be honored by the supplier.
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Re: Binary editor

Post by 5.0ranger » Wed Aug 18, 2021 5:20 am

I have tried, I was told it's a issue on my end with my laptop. Redownloaded all software, due to it wouldn't boot up anymore. It's functional now but doesn't allow any changes, it's been months since I have dealt with it. I believe it's back to the original issue. It's down to no return calls, return email or text so it was determined it's not on his end for the problem so I'm on my own. So that's why I'm at the point of saying screw it use something else, I have another project that is in the works I need to be able to tune as well. So I mean at this point what do you do? Can't do anything with what I have.

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Re: Binary editor

Post by 5.0ranger » Wed Aug 18, 2021 7:31 am

Binary editor will allow me to make the change but once I go to write it, then I'm told I need tokens. when I access the registration it shows the 3 times changes have been made I don't remember everything off the screen for that. At the point where I just want the sob to run right, if I go it or someone else tunes it for me.
The gentleman I have been dealing with no idea if something happened to him or anything, I hope not, just sucks. I'm out of things I know to do, I paid for the system and my very mild ranger I daily to work is not happy.

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Re: Binary editor

Post by FinnCobra » Wed Aug 18, 2021 2:58 pm

What if you start editing first saved tune, after you used token. I think you can ruin token if you overwrite file. BE warns if you try to load different file when file with token is loaded.
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Re: Binary editor

Post by 5.0ranger » Wed Aug 18, 2021 7:26 pm

Last time I spoke with the guy I got everything from. He was remote linked to my laptop made slight changes. After adding the vin for the truck to the explorer processor. It gave him the same issue. He had me redownload binary editor, deleted some items from it. My connection was terrible. I had to finish up at a later time. I did that , the program wouldn't boot up, again. This time I did it at work. Everything installed, booted up trying to remember back to May. So that's where it stands. My Cleveland powerplant it's looking like it's going to get a aftermarket stand alone. This process has been a disaster.

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Re: Binary editor

Post by jsa » Wed Aug 18, 2021 9:32 pm

5.0ranger wrote: Wed Aug 18, 2021 7:26 pm After adding the vin for the truck to the explorer processor. It gave him the same issue.
No longer one vehicle, by the sound of it.
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Re: Binary editor

Post by 5.0ranger » Thu Aug 19, 2021 3:36 am

It's a 95 ranger with a 302, being run by a 97 explorer eec. The same eec the tuning process began with. He just wanted to add the vehicle Vin to the processor. When loading it up there was no Vin tied to the processor.
The backup eec for it, no Vin either.

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Re: Binary editor

Post by EDS50 » Thu Aug 19, 2021 8:38 am

This doesnt sound like a Binary Editor issue to me. This sounds like a "the guy I got everything from", laptop/internet/hardware configuration/compatability issue you are experiencing. What engine/computer harness are you using with your Ranger/302/Explorer ecm? What hardware are you using (QH/TwEECer)? Have you tried contacting Clint who owns Binary Editor to see if he can help you out?
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Re: Binary editor

Post by 5.0ranger » Thu Aug 19, 2021 10:06 am

So, I'm not trying to bash person/company that's why I haven't said that. If there is a actual personal/health whatever issue I would feel like a-hole.
My options for wifi at my home are total garbage so I'm limited to hotspot off my phone, Verizon has been sucking for it. Once I got everything reinstalled it's been good. It wouldn't even boot up binary editor before.
I got binary editor, eec analyzer, token, mongoose obd cable. In my package.
Truck is a 95 ranger, running a 01 explorer 5.0, afr, small cam, roller rockers, 1.72s, shorty headers, nothing special just 24lb ford racing injectors. Eec is 97 explorer reman eec. Xtd2 is the spare(what I bought for the reman, had issues with couple from junkyard). Harness is factory explorer harness.
As far as quarter horse or tweecer, it was a package(listed above) I bought to be able to tune my stuff being what I need to make my changes.
I have not contacted anyone other than the guy/ company that I bought from. And as of this thread that's it.

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Re: Binary editor

Post by EDS50 » Thu Aug 19, 2021 10:23 am

I would contact Clint at BE and or Craig/Dave at Moates to see if they cant get you situated with what you have if the person/company you purchased everything from is unable to help you.
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Re: Binary editor

Post by 5.0ranger » Thu Aug 19, 2021 11:35 am

I just want my junk to run right. I haven't heard from "guy" since June. Exhausted trying to call, text, call. Obviously he had something happen or he just doesn't want to deal with it, sucks he took a long time to convince me to get me to buy a package. Did stuff for previous vehicles, sending eec to him.

Again I appreciate all the input and help.
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Re: Binary editor

Post by EDS50 » Thu Aug 19, 2021 12:15 pm

I still recommend at the very least to contact Clint regarding the issues you are experiencing to see if he cant help you get things sorted out. clint@eecanalyzer.net
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Re: Binary editor

Post by tealstang67 » Fri Aug 20, 2021 5:20 pm

Curtis
I show you have had 2 tokens for the same vehicle. You need to locate the tune that has been licensed to the vehicle and B.E. will stop asking for a token. If you have changed the PCM then this is another Vehicle in B.E. eyes. I would be glad to help clear this up. Email me at ben@coretuning.net

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Re: Binary editor

Post by 5.0ranger » Fri Aug 20, 2021 7:18 pm

Thank you Ben, greatly appreciated. I'll look into it and get it addressed.
Reason for the other EEC was solely a backup never to be modified. After changing the injector data, I went from 18mpg to 13.1 for 2 tanks so it just went back to the backup and mileage came back.

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Re: Binary editor

Post by 86GT » Tue Aug 31, 2021 3:50 pm

We have been talking back and forth. He has a cam and injectors that are not stock. After putting the correct data in for the injectors it ran better but is still needs lots of work. The HEGOs are not responding under idle but under normal cruising he said the HEGOs start responding. This is screaming Heater controls on the HEGO is not on or there is long tube headers.

Token issue was resolved by finding the original tune.

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Re: Binary editor

Post by 5.0ranger » Thu Sep 02, 2021 6:07 am

The HEGO are hovering in the area they should be. Long term stays 0 short term at cruise slightly up and down even at idle. Open loop it stumbles off idle. O2s are in the short tube collectors.
Yes it's a 01explorer 302, afr 165s(old 65 cc) comp cam roller( don't remember specs other than duration 264, rpm of 1500-5500) 1.72 scorpions, short tubes for a 60s falcon. Ford racing 24s. Very simple basic and being I lost compression with the heads going from 58cc to 65cc kind of lacking.
If we can try to get the token issue resolved next week I would appreciate it. I know the injector data is not correct, info I found I thought was right was not(Adam questioned it, after looking at ford racing site found that info I had was incorrect). I hope we can resolve it, I'm not trying to sell it but I have a guy who keeps trying to guy it. I don't want to take it to somewhere and beg them to write a tune.

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Re: Binary editor

Post by 86GT » Thu Sep 02, 2021 9:04 am

Email me and we can get the token resolved. I was Thinking you were someone else.

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Re: Binary editor

Post by 5.0ranger » Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:06 pm

Thanks for the help everyone. I appreciate it. Going to reach out to a few shops on Monday try to get a tune done on it.

Really uncertain about my cleveland build now.

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Re: Binary editor

Post by 86GT » Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:42 am

If you want to email me, I can look up a shop that is near you that uses BE. Its up to you.

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