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Odrapnew
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FIGURED IT OUT- LTFT 'jumping' when AC kicks on/off

Post by Odrapnew » Thu Jun 12, 2025 1:10 pm

EDIT: I figured out what is causing the LTFT to jump. There's a scalar for Neutral with AC on for adaptive learning. So, sometime in the past, the ECU learned the higher fuel trim at idle with AC on. Now I need to figure out why.


Getting back in to the summer tuning mode and was playing around with OL idle and whatnot.

Anyway, I was looking at my datalog from this morning and noticed that my LTFT was at +5-7% at cruising speed early on in my drive and AFR's were reporting richer than commanded.
Once it went into closed loop, LAMBSE started leaning out to hit stoich.

After about 5 minutes of driving, ECT was at operating temp and LFTT starting coming down.
It only took about 2 minutes of highway driving before LTFT were back to about 2%.

I thought it was odd.

I went back to last nights datalog and noticed, for some reason, when the AC compressor kicked on and IAC jumped up to compensate, my LTFT jumped from -2% to +7%, instantly like a switch.
I also noticed when that happened, AFR dropped down by 0.5-0.75 AFR (LAMBSE stayed constant due to OL idle). This makes sense as it's adding 7% more fuel. When the compressor disengages and IAC dropped down, LTFT dropped down as well.

I will say, I haven't cleared KAM in at least a week, but still seems odd.

Not the best image, but if you focus on columns F, G, H at the yellow line, you can see the jump.
Then, look at column S (AFR) which drops down when the LTFT jumps up.
This is idling at a stop light.
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Any thoughts on this?
'89 Notch, 304(5.0), Novi2K@13psi (currently not installed) TFS heads, TFS Stage 1 cam, Cobra intake, 60lb'ers and Pro-M 80mm, longtubes_x-pipe_flowmasters and more crap that doesnt increase power. 437rwhp@5500(and still climbing)/438rwtq@~4000rpm Tweecer R/T w_BE and EA

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