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Question for BE users that have worked with RAAD4 & READ0
I have a question for those of you that have worked in Binary Editor with the RAAD4,1998 and READ0 1999 to 2001 Explorer 5.0 pcms. I would like to know the pcm clock speeds of the two different strategies. Thanks in advance for the information.
Last edited by ATPCR on Mon Jun 23, 2025 11:55 am, edited 2 times in total.
Re: Question for BE users that have worked with RAAD4 & READ0
Post the bin files.
Cheers
John
95 Escort RS Cosworth - CARD QUIK COSY ANTI / GHAJ0
Moates QH & BE
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John
95 Escort RS Cosworth - CARD QUIK COSY ANTI / GHAJ0
Moates QH & BE
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Re: Question for BE users that have worked with RAAD4 & READ0
@jsa The RAAD bin file is 224k.
So is the READ0 file.
I'm not currently a BE user so I'm unable to look at them in TunerPro because definition files do not exist yet.
I'm guessing that they need to be converted to 256k too to look at them in BE.
Thanks John, Greg
I'm not currently a BE user so I'm unable to look at them in TunerPro because definition files do not exist yet.
I'm guessing that they need to be converted to 256k too to look at them in BE.
Thanks John, Greg
Re: Question for BE users that have worked with RAAD4 & READ0
Greg,
Definition files would be required for both BE and TP, and the author would need to have included the XTALHPS scalar.
No they do not need to be converted to 256kb for BE.
As the there is no definition at hand with XTALHPS included, I've used SAD to disassemble the bins and compared to a previously disassembled RZASA bin with a known XTALHPS location. I've looked for where the RAM Pointers are setup and identified XTALHPS afterwards.
RZASA
READ0
RAAD4
Once the XTALHPS value is found, apply this formula to it for the clock speed.
READ0 is 24MHz
RAAD4 is 18MHz
Definition files would be required for both BE and TP, and the author would need to have included the XTALHPS scalar.
No they do not need to be converted to 256kb for BE.
As the there is no definition at hand with XTALHPS included, I've used SAD to disassemble the bins and compared to a previously disassembled RZASA bin with a known XTALHPS location. I've looked for where the RAM Pointers are setup and identified XTALHPS afterwards.
RZASA
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126ea: 08 byte 8 XTALHPS_27
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823bc: a1,80,16,ec ldw Rec,1680 RP16 = 1680;
823c0: b3,f4,04,34 ldb R34,[Rf4+4] TMP1L = XTALHPS_27; # [126EA] 0x8
823c4: a1,66,ac,46 ldw R46,ac66 TMP0L = S.0x1AC66;
823c8: b3,f4,05,36 ldb R36,[Rf4+5] TMP2L = SPI_BIT_TRANSFER_RATE24;
823cc: 99,06,34 cmpb R34,6
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1258e: 06 byte 6 XTALHPS_24
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823fe: a1,80,16,ee ldw Ree,1680 Ree = 1680;
82402: a1,56,77,46 ldw R46,7756 TMP0L = 7756;
82406: b3,f4,05,36 ldb R36,[Rf4+5] TMP2L = [1258f];
8240a: b3,f4,04,34 ldb R34,[Rf4+4] TMP1L = XTALHPS_24; # [1258E] 0x6
8240e: 99,02,34 cmpb R34,2
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12646: 02 byte 2 XTALHPS_18
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82400: a1,80,16,ee ldw Ree,1680 Ree = 1680;
82404: a1,b0,76,46 ldw R46,76b0 R46 = 76b0;
82408: b3,f4,05,36 ldb R36,[Rf4+5] R36 = [12647];
8240c: b3,f4,04,34 ldb R34,[Rf4+4] R34 = XTALHPS_18; # [12646] 0x2
82410: 99,02,34 cmpb R34,2
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(X/2*3+15)
RAAD4 is 18MHz
Cheers
John
95 Escort RS Cosworth - CARD QUIK COSY ANTI / GHAJ0
Moates QH & BE
ForDiag
John
95 Escort RS Cosworth - CARD QUIK COSY ANTI / GHAJ0
Moates QH & BE
ForDiag
Re: Question for BE users that have worked with RAAD4 & READ0
Thanks, John, for taking the time to check these bin files out using your SAD abilities. I'm in discussions with another Explorer friend about having definition files developed for '98 RAAD and '99 to '01 READ0 for TunerPro. And thanks for answering a question for me August 4th, 2024, on another forum. I'm in talks too about the def files development.
Last week, I PCMflashed with my "Spanish" Scanmatik and Oleg's module #29 the READ0 file into a pcm meant for the RAAD files and there was a very noticeable idle speed difference. All that I could think of was that the pcm clock speeds must be different.
The stock '99 Ex/MM 5.0 was running at 750 rpms and with the READ0 bin file flashed into the '98 with the slower clock speed, the idle rpm was 600. I was assuming that the reason why was a clock speed difference. I didn't go forward with any other testing and put things back the way that they were stock.
But the pcm clock speeds seem to have a marked effect.
Last week, I PCMflashed with my "Spanish" Scanmatik and Oleg's module #29 the READ0 file into a pcm meant for the RAAD files and there was a very noticeable idle speed difference. All that I could think of was that the pcm clock speeds must be different.
The stock '99 Ex/MM 5.0 was running at 750 rpms and with the READ0 bin file flashed into the '98 with the slower clock speed, the idle rpm was 600. I was assuming that the reason why was a clock speed difference. I didn't go forward with any other testing and put things back the way that they were stock.
But the pcm clock speeds seem to have a marked effect.
Re: Question for BE users that have worked with RAAD4 & READ0
Boostedeverything on the other forum, has been working on READ0 which has been labelled as EQE3. It'd be worth contacting him to see what he's willing to share.
All the time dependant actions would be screwed running 24MHz code on an 18MHz box. Surprising it even ran at all.
All the time dependant actions would be screwed running 24MHz code on an 18MHz box. Surprising it even ran at all.
Cheers
John
95 Escort RS Cosworth - CARD QUIK COSY ANTI / GHAJ0
Moates QH & BE
ForDiag
John
95 Escort RS Cosworth - CARD QUIK COSY ANTI / GHAJ0
Moates QH & BE
ForDiag
Re: Question for BE users that have worked with RAAD4 & READ0
I didn't feel like a test drive was even a good idea after the noticeable idle change. There was no safe place to do a test drive and pull over in an emergency. The next thought was, what was it doing to fuel pressure? My fuel pressure gauge is broken so I was unable to check that. I won't do any more cross "hardware code" experiments.
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