No its not a joke. For those that don't know Moates decided to close the doors and shut the business down. Very sad to see. With that being said; what do we do now and which direction to go. What's everyone's thoughts?
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Moates Out of Business
1992 Mustang LX - 25.1c Chassis, Vortech Blown Dart 333 on Meth, Lentech Trans, TRZ Backhalf, A9P Tune, Moates QH/SL v1.9, BE, EA, TunerView
2003 Mach 1 - Core Tuning RYAK1/ZYA2 QH Tuned, Borla Atak Cat Back, Pypes X-Pipe, Twin 65mm TB, K&N CAI, ICT Billet Intake Spacer, Eibach Pro Series Plus Suspension, Steeda Adj. Upper/Lower Control Arms, QA1 Bump Steer, Steeda Short Throw Shifter, 315/35/17's.
2003 Mach 1 - Core Tuning RYAK1/ZYA2 QH Tuned, Borla Atak Cat Back, Pypes X-Pipe, Twin 65mm TB, K&N CAI, ICT Billet Intake Spacer, Eibach Pro Series Plus Suspension, Steeda Adj. Upper/Lower Control Arms, QA1 Bump Steer, Steeda Short Throw Shifter, 315/35/17's.
Re: Moates Out of Business
It seems Moates don't want to open source it, sell it or license it to anybody else.
TwEECer is still available, but what is usability hit like?
Who's used both and able to give a detailed comparison?
Other brands of J3 chip are available but some require different tools to program.
EEC-V have still got Mongoose or similar tools available to reflash.
It'd be nice if clones or revised / enhanced versions became available.
TwEECer is still available, but what is usability hit like?
Who's used both and able to give a detailed comparison?
Other brands of J3 chip are available but some require different tools to program.
EEC-V have still got Mongoose or similar tools available to reflash.
It'd be nice if clones or revised / enhanced versions became available.
Cheers
John
95 Escort RS Cosworth - CARD QUIK COSY ANTI / GHAJ0
Moates QH & BE
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John
95 Escort RS Cosworth - CARD QUIK COSY ANTI / GHAJ0
Moates QH & BE
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Re: Moates Out of Business
tweecer is in my opinion 50% of QH. Very small payload can be logged. Drivers are so old that installing them is not as easy in newer Windows versions. I always use QH, and when tune is ready I transfer it to tweecer if customer has it. I have tweecer hardware license in BE, I don't like Calcon or Caledit.
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Re: Moates Out of Business
How many bytes of payload do you get?
Yes, I've just got a tweecer license for BE in case my existing QH fails.
Yes, I've just got a tweecer license for BE in case my existing QH fails.
Cheers
John
95 Escort RS Cosworth - CARD QUIK COSY ANTI / GHAJ0
Moates QH & BE
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John
95 Escort RS Cosworth - CARD QUIK COSY ANTI / GHAJ0
Moates QH & BE
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Re: Moates Out of Business
It is sad to hear about the Moates QH and F3 chips. It is a big hit to the industry. It goes to show you how good the hardware really is. I wish the best for the Moates Camp...
Core Tuning still has a limited supply of QH. These reaming QHs can only be purchased with a QH package.
As for the TwEECer, it is still an option. Yes the drivers can be a little picky if you have the older TwEECer version. I believe Mike Glover has drivers which are more windows 7+ friendly. These newer drivers work with the newer TwEECer's. It maybe as simple as a firmware update. Someone should ask Mike.
The TwEECer can handle up to 32 bytes total. Yes it is less than what the Moates QH could do, but it can still get the job done. The base TwEECer is just like the Moates F3v2 chip and does not have a battery. The RT TwEECer has the ability to datalog and again there in no battery. The RT edition requires a different patch code from the Moates QH. Some strategies will need to be updated with the new patch code.
There are other F3 equivalents on the market. We have to start looking into these alternatives and contact the manufactures. The manufactures have to be willing to allow it to be implement into BE. Its a legal thing....
Rest assured that Binary Editor will still be maintained and updated as needed.
Core Tuning still has a limited supply of QH. These reaming QHs can only be purchased with a QH package.
As for the TwEECer, it is still an option. Yes the drivers can be a little picky if you have the older TwEECer version. I believe Mike Glover has drivers which are more windows 7+ friendly. These newer drivers work with the newer TwEECer's. It maybe as simple as a firmware update. Someone should ask Mike.
The TwEECer can handle up to 32 bytes total. Yes it is less than what the Moates QH could do, but it can still get the job done. The base TwEECer is just like the Moates F3v2 chip and does not have a battery. The RT TwEECer has the ability to datalog and again there in no battery. The RT edition requires a different patch code from the Moates QH. Some strategies will need to be updated with the new patch code.
There are other F3 equivalents on the market. We have to start looking into these alternatives and contact the manufactures. The manufactures have to be willing to allow it to be implement into BE. Its a legal thing....
Rest assured that Binary Editor will still be maintained and updated as needed.
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