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Help with copying file

Post by mike9812121298 » Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:24 am

I need to pull the file off this ecm and put onto a f3v2 chip. The part number for the ecm is f4ff-12a650-kB. Are all the “12a650” ecm’s was he same or do I need to find one with kb at the end.
I have the burn 2 and f3v2 chips already

Looks like u need to buy this

http://www.moates.net/fe-ford-eec-compu ... -p-74.html

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Re: Help with copying file

Post by jsa » Wed Oct 09, 2019 3:36 pm

F4ff is a year and vehicle model code.
16a250 means ECU.
KB is the subversion/revision

What you eally need is the strategy for the catchcode on your ECU label. Typically the catchcode is the 'word' with the 4 largest characters on the label.

Yeas that adapter would allow you to read out the EEC program
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Re: Help with copying file

Post by mike9812121298 » Thu Oct 10, 2019 9:30 am

The ecu’s I have been using for a different tune are the
f1zf-12a650-bb (d1L1)
F1zf-12a650-ab (c1a1)
And those both work for the file I’m using. Sorry I’m new to this but if I’m understanding correctly any of the ecu’s with f1zf should be the same hardware setup? The bb,ab and d1l1, c1a1 are numbers I don’t have to worry about?

The new file I’m trying to transfer is on a f4ff. Does that mean any ecu I find that starts with f4ff should work for what I’m trying to do.

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Re: Help with copying file

Post by jsa » Thu Oct 10, 2019 5:01 pm

The catchcode is specific to the software and hardware combination.
The whole prefix-12a650-suffix is also specific to the software and hardware combination.
The same prefix code can cover different or similar hardware and software. Manual VS Auto Tx for example.
The suffix could represent a software and/or a hardware, version and/or revision.

The strategy name tells you if the software is compatible. GUFB is a STRATEGY name and A9L is a CATCHCODE in the GUFB strategy family.

In my case CARD, QUIK, COSY and ANTI are all CATCHCODES under the GHAJ0 STRATEGY.

There will also be a hadware code on the label near the catchcode. Typically 7characters. In my case hardware codes are SMD-190 and SMD-490 IIRC, with 2 catchcodes a piece common to GHAJ0 strategy.

EFI-MA39C looks like the hardware code for C1A1 according to a sketchy ebay pic. D1L1 also EFI-MA39C. So your two catchcodes will operate on any EFI-MA39C hardware you find.

If you want to know about a marine application you would be well served to ask about it directly instead of talking all round it. 300M catchcode already covered on this forum, see;

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=22155&sid=112a11e4e ... 7&start=60
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Re: Help with copying file

Post by mike9812121298 » Fri Oct 11, 2019 5:50 pm

I have that file already, sorry didn’t try to make it seem like I was dancing around the subject. I’m trying to build a different ecm for a Ford Volvo 5.8. The gt40 tag is 290m and 300m. But the Volvo shows 265.

They both show EFI-MA39C show the stock ecu should work for each one. Sounds like I’ll just need to pull the file off the oem.

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Re: Help with copying file

Post by jsa » Sat Oct 12, 2019 6:07 am

As the hardware is common to all 3 catchcodes you can run the code on any of the hardware.
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Re: Help with copying file

Post by mike9812121298 » Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:25 pm

is there any way you could look like this file to tell if its complete?
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265eee.bin
(56 KiB) Downloaded 3 times

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Re: Help with copying file

Post by jsa » Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:10 pm

It does not appear to be a valid file as it has recurring patterns rather than logical code.

Code: Select all

22a3: fa,ff,11,0c,a1,12,00,10,c6,11,00,17,05,3e,2a,03 ??? 
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Code: Select all

21f9: 91,01,a2            orb   Ra2,1            Ra2 |= 1;
21fc: a3,01,00,0d,14      ldw   R14,[R0+d00]     R14 = [d00];
2201: ff                  nop                    
2202: fa                  di                     disable ints;
2203: 21,f4               sjmp  23f9             goto 23f9;
Have you got 12V and ground to all the respective power pin on the EEC while doing the read?
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Re: Help with copying file

Post by jsa » Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:26 pm

Comparing the first few lines of yours to 300M, it is possible they are the same strategy.

On the assumption that the first few lines are valid, both have the same interrupt vectors and RBases'.
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Re: Help with copying file

Post by motorhead1991 » Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:53 pm

jsa wrote:
Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:10 pm
It does not appear to be a valid file as it has recurring patterns rather than logical code.

Code: Select all

22a3: fa,ff,11,0c,a1,12,00,10,c6,11,00,17,05,3e,2a,03 ??? 
.
.
.
.
.

Code: Select all

21f9: 91,01,a2            orb   Ra2,1            Ra2 |= 1;
21fc: a3,01,00,0d,14      ldw   R14,[R0+d00]     R14 = [d00];
2201: ff                  nop                    
2202: fa                  di                     disable ints;
2203: 21,f4               sjmp  23f9             goto 23f9;
Have you got 12V and ground to all the respective power pin on the EEC while doing the read?
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Re: Help with copying file

Post by jsa » Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:14 am

All good until some fault pulls the burn2 supply down.

You got any other suggestions about why the posted bin has the repeating patterns?
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Re: Help with copying file

Post by mike9812121298 » Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:23 am

I just used the burn 2, fa, fe to read the file. It didn’t pull up any errors after the program scanned it. I can post a copy of the 300m file tomorrow to match it up to. I was told the 265 and 300 were very similar.

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Re: Help with copying file

Post by jsa » Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:19 am

The 300M linked above, on this site appears valid.

It is your 265 that seems invalid.

You need to post a valid 265 for comparison to be worthwhile.
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