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Adding OBD-II plug to harness (EEC-V)

Post by Shaker666 » Thu Apr 17, 2014 3:58 pm

I need to add an OBD-II plug to my vehicle's harness. Does anyone have a pinout for the EEC-V specifically?

I'm planning to mount this plug kit (http://www.bmotorsports.com/shop/produc ... ts_id/1562) under the dash and use one of the Bluetooth ELM327 units to datalog. Will it work?
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'66 Mustang: 10.5:1 289, Victor Jr. EFI intake, 90mm TB, LMAF, 30# injectors, CDAN4 TwEECed
'00 Mountaineer: 9.2:1 302, ported Perf. RPM2, LMAF, 65mm TB, LU24As, READ0, QH currently
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Re: Adding OBD-II plug to harness (EEC-V)

Post by Stengun » Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:25 pm

Howdy Shaker,

I need to do the same thing. I have an OBD-II plug and the 3 wires bundled together but I have connected them to the plug yet.

If I can remember to so so I'll let you know which three pins/wires are used. It's something like #13, 15 and 16.

Paul

P.S. Loos like you and I are the only people using EEC-V ECUs.

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Re: Adding OBD-II plug to harness (EEC-V)

Post by Shaker666 » Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:31 pm

Stengun wrote:Howdy Shaker,

I need to do the same thing. I have an OBD-II plug and the 3 wires bundled together but I have connected them to the plug yet.

If I can remember to so so I'll let you know which three pins/wires are used. It's something like #13, 15 and 16.

Paul

P.S. Loos like you and I are the only people using EEC-V ECUs.

Paul
Yeah, it definitely looks like we're the only ones running EEC-V. The thing is, it does support all the features I want quite well. Unfortunately, it's not working! :lol: Decipha pushed me into it. I'm sure I'll get it working, but it's going to require some pretty thorough debugging of my harness.

I have the pinout for the EEC-V, what I meant to ask for was the pinout of the OBD-II connector itself as it relates to the EEC-V. Is it just 4 wires going to the OBD-II (datalink +, -, FEPS, and 12V power)?
'89 Fox: 8.6:1 306, GT-40 lower, Blowzilla 2.2, ProM 92mm MAF, 90mm TB, LU80s, TwEECed A9L w/EDIS8
'79 Bronco: 8.5:1 408C-2V, Lightning lower, Cobra upper, LMAF, 65mm TB, 24# injectors, EDIS8, Moates F3, single O2
'66 Mustang: 10.5:1 289, Victor Jr. EFI intake, 90mm TB, LMAF, 30# injectors, CDAN4 TwEECed
'00 Mountaineer: 9.2:1 302, ported Perf. RPM2, LMAF, 65mm TB, LU24As, READ0, QH currently
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Re: Adding OBD-II plug to harness (EEC-V)

Post by Paulie » Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:51 pm

Here you go.
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Re: Adding OBD-II plug to harness (EEC-V)

Post by Shaker666 » Fri Apr 18, 2014 9:37 am

Thank you very much!
'89 Fox: 8.6:1 306, GT-40 lower, Blowzilla 2.2, ProM 92mm MAF, 90mm TB, LU80s, TwEECed A9L w/EDIS8
'79 Bronco: 8.5:1 408C-2V, Lightning lower, Cobra upper, LMAF, 65mm TB, 24# injectors, EDIS8, Moates F3, single O2
'66 Mustang: 10.5:1 289, Victor Jr. EFI intake, 90mm TB, LMAF, 30# injectors, CDAN4 TwEECed
'00 Mountaineer: 9.2:1 302, ported Perf. RPM2, LMAF, 65mm TB, LU24As, READ0, QH currently
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Re: Adding OBD-II plug to harness (EEC-V)

Post by Stengun » Fri Apr 18, 2014 11:15 am

Howdy Shaker,

Here's a simpler pinout:

13 DLC PWR It's pin 13 on the OBD2 port
15 DLC (-) pin 10
16 DLC (+). pin 2

That's all you really need to read the ECU's code. Not sure about datalogging.

Yeah, that danged ol' Decipha steered me to the CDAN4 EEC-V too.

I know if I keep hacking at it long enough I'll finally get it to run right.

Paul
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Re: Adding OBD-II plug to harness (EEC-V)

Post by decipha » Fri Apr 18, 2014 12:09 pm

thats it for datalogging as well

its nothing special just a few wires, don't forget power and ground

I have an obd2 port wiring diagram i'll post when I can

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Re: Adding OBD-II plug to harness (EEC-V)

Post by cobraslayer95 » Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:32 pm

Hey decipha has talked me into the same swap on my 460

Do either of you have pictures of the harness before you installed it.

I found a car to get the sensors and harness and ecu out of its a 97 gt

I'm trying to see which plugs or sensors are not used.

I have a c6 trans so I won't need the trans harness.

Also can I see pics of your cranks sensor ?
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Re: Adding OBD-II plug to harness (EEC-V)

Post by Shaker666 » Sat Sep 13, 2014 7:04 pm

cobraslayer95 wrote:Hey decipha has talked me into the same swap on my 460

Do either of you have pictures of the harness before you installed it.

I found a car to get the sensors and harness and ecu out of its a 97 gt

I'm trying to see which plugs or sensors are not used.

I have a c6 trans so I won't need the trans harness.

Also can I see pics of your cranks sensor ?
The EEC-V stuff has a relay/diode pack attached close to the main harness bulkhead, which is a rather large bulky black connector. The engine harness, including O2, transmission, and injector connectors come off the other side of that. I ended up redoing the entire harness to match the lengths and locations of sensors in my car, then wrapping it all up in some Techflex braided sleeving. You won't have to worry about the trans harness, but it's good to know what it looks like. There's a 16-pos black connector that contains most of the trans functions along with a 16-pos grey connector that has a couple. You'll need to retain the grey connector at the very least as there's non-trans related critical connections that will need to be made there.

You should get a hold of the schematics for the vehicle you've pulled the harness from so you can identify what you do and don't need. I was running a C6, but decided to upgrade to a built 4R70W and glad I didn't eliminate the transmission connectors.

The crank position sensors from the 4.6 will be unusable, IMHO. I would use the crank sensor from a late model Ford Contour and fabricate brackets and a 36-1 trigger wheel for your crank pulley to make it all work. For you cam sync, you should take the shaft out of a 3.8L V6 unit and retrofit it into the housing from a '96-01 Explorer/Mountaineer's cam sync. You'll want the really short tine version as well, not the half moon type. The half moon type works with a Hall effect whereas the later model stuff uses a VR sensor for the cam sync.
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'89 Fox: 8.6:1 306, GT-40 lower, Blowzilla 2.2, ProM 92mm MAF, 90mm TB, LU80s, TwEECed A9L w/EDIS8
'79 Bronco: 8.5:1 408C-2V, Lightning lower, Cobra upper, LMAF, 65mm TB, 24# injectors, EDIS8, Moates F3, single O2
'66 Mustang: 10.5:1 289, Victor Jr. EFI intake, 90mm TB, LMAF, 30# injectors, CDAN4 TwEECed
'00 Mountaineer: 9.2:1 302, ported Perf. RPM2, LMAF, 65mm TB, LU24As, READ0, QH currently
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Re: Adding OBD-II plug to harness (EEC-V)

Post by cobraslayer95 » Sat Sep 13, 2014 8:39 pm

Awesome great info there. Thanks so much..

OK I have zero wiring in this car.. I was hoping I can make the ecu and engine harness separate from the main car harness I have the 18 circuit hotrodwires harness to use still in the boxfor the chassis wireing.

do you have a pic of your harness laid out before installing it?
Or some installed pics?
1995 Mustang gt, Forged 347 stroker, Trick Flow track heat heads, Track heat intake,msd distributor,comp blower cam, Vortech s trim 8lb pulley, 4" power pipe, 255 lph pump, 42lb,t-5 trans,centerforce dual friction, billet steel flywheel,3:73 gears, 15/8 headers, x pipe, spintech mufflers, moates quarter horse, lc1 wideband

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Re: Adding OBD-II plug to harness (EEC-V)

Post by Shaker666 » Sat Sep 13, 2014 9:46 pm

cobraslayer95 wrote:Awesome great info there. Thanks so much..

OK I have zero wiring in this car.. I was hoping I can make the ecu and engine harness separate from the main car harness I have the 18 circuit hotrodwires harness to use still in the boxfor the chassis wireing.

do you have a pic of your harness laid out before installing it?
Or some installed pics?
You should be able to do that. I have a '71 Mustang with a Painless Wiring 14-circuit universal Ford harness installed. The ECU and engine harness is totally separate. A nice feature of the EEC-V harness is that the engine harness completely detaches from the ECU harness via the large black bulkhead connector. We pulled my engine out a few months ago without having to disconnect anything on the engine itself, just that bulkhead and a ground connection, that was it. I don't have any great pics, but here's a few anyway.

Here's my VR mount setup, kinda ghetto.
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A: EEC relay pack with diode
B: Primary engine harness bulkhead connector
C: EDIS8 ignition coil packs mounted on the driver side valvecover
D: IAC valve and connector
E: Cam sync sensor and connector
F: Fuel injector connector
G: MAF connector harness
H: Obscured by thermostat housing and radiatior hose, but the ECT sensor is mounted in there
I: TPS sensor connector
J: EVAP solenoid connector
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'89 Fox: 8.6:1 306, GT-40 lower, Blowzilla 2.2, ProM 92mm MAF, 90mm TB, LU80s, TwEECed A9L w/EDIS8
'79 Bronco: 8.5:1 408C-2V, Lightning lower, Cobra upper, LMAF, 65mm TB, 24# injectors, EDIS8, Moates F3, single O2
'66 Mustang: 10.5:1 289, Victor Jr. EFI intake, 90mm TB, LMAF, 30# injectors, CDAN4 TwEECed
'00 Mountaineer: 9.2:1 302, ported Perf. RPM2, LMAF, 65mm TB, LU24As, READ0, QH currently
'08 & '09 Buell XB12Ss, 1125CR: DDFI3 tuned via TunerPro RT

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Re: Adding OBD-II plug to harness (EEC-V)

Post by cobraslayer95 » Mon Sep 15, 2014 12:20 pm

Thanks for all the great info

I still have some questions and concerns.

Would you mind if I got a phone # in a private message to talk about a few of my issues?

I don't know if I'm making this harder than is is but I usually good at figuring things out and everyone makes it sound so easy but my head is about to explode from reading and looking for answers
1995 Mustang gt, Forged 347 stroker, Trick Flow track heat heads, Track heat intake,msd distributor,comp blower cam, Vortech s trim 8lb pulley, 4" power pipe, 255 lph pump, 42lb,t-5 trans,centerforce dual friction, billet steel flywheel,3:73 gears, 15/8 headers, x pipe, spintech mufflers, moates quarter horse, lc1 wideband

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