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broncomike
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ISCDC stuck on same value
I've been trying to improve idle and realized that the ISCDC value is stuck on 12.51. Any thoughts has to why this would happen. software, hardware, bad IAC?
Using:
TunerPro RT
GUFB
A9L
Using:
TunerPro RT
GUFB
A9L
Re: ISCDC stuck on same value
I could be wrong, but I believe 12.51 is the minimum it will report. It may indicate you have an air leak somewhere.
Re: ISCDC stuck on same value
What is it idling at and what do you have it set for? Did you change the right value?
85GT, 302 w/Dart Windsor Jr heads, Crane 2030 equiv. Performer 5.0, 75mm TB, 88mm slot MAF, 34lbs injectors, BBK shorties, 5spd converted to 4R70W with Baumann controller, 9" rear w/3.25s
A9L running A9P bin via Quarterhorse w/LC-1 WB
A9L running A9P bin via Quarterhorse w/LC-1 WB
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broncomike
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Re: ISCDC stuck on same value
Thanks guys for the reply.
Let me back up and start with why I'm needing to make tuning adjustments. I'm having problems with surging idle. Once the motor gets pass the first 10 seconds after starting it seems to be fine...no surging. I'm new to tuning and have read over the MD idle air 101 article several times and decided to give it a shot. When I started working through the steps I noticed that the ISCDC reading was stuck on 12.51. Everything I tried has no affect on the read out. (i.e. rev engine, cold start, hot start, disconnect IAC, adjust throttle stop,etc). The motor idles at around 670-700rpm after surging stops and the NUBASE is still set at 672. I haven't changed any values yet becasue of the apparent issue with the ISCDC reading. Thanks again for any help.
Let me back up and start with why I'm needing to make tuning adjustments. I'm having problems with surging idle. Once the motor gets pass the first 10 seconds after starting it seems to be fine...no surging. I'm new to tuning and have read over the MD idle air 101 article several times and decided to give it a shot. When I started working through the steps I noticed that the ISCDC reading was stuck on 12.51. Everything I tried has no affect on the read out. (i.e. rev engine, cold start, hot start, disconnect IAC, adjust throttle stop,etc). The motor idles at around 670-700rpm after surging stops and the NUBASE is still set at 672. I haven't changed any values yet becasue of the apparent issue with the ISCDC reading. Thanks again for any help.
Re: ISCDC stuck on same value
Try closing the throttle some, say 1/2 a turn out and see if it goes up.
85GT, 302 w/Dart Windsor Jr heads, Crane 2030 equiv. Performer 5.0, 75mm TB, 88mm slot MAF, 34lbs injectors, BBK shorties, 5spd converted to 4R70W with Baumann controller, 9" rear w/3.25s
A9L running A9P bin via Quarterhorse w/LC-1 WB
A9L running A9P bin via Quarterhorse w/LC-1 WB
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broncomike
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Re: ISCDC stuck on same value
Tried adjusting throttle down still no change from 12.51. Checked voltage at IAC 11.8 and checked IAC with Ohm meter and it appears okay. It really seems to be a software issue with how the dashboard is interpreting the data. Would this be a problem with the GUFB.adx file?
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decipha
Re: ISCDC stuck on same value
no its a mechanical problem, its not adding air because it can't reach idle speed
if you unplug the iac connector and the engine still idles at the same rpm then the engine is getting too much air
since you have a surging idle too then you have an air leak
if you unplug the iac connector and the engine still idles at the same rpm then the engine is getting too much air
since you have a surging idle too then you have an air leak
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broncomike
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Re: ISCDC stuck on same value
Mechanical problem okay......however the surging only occurs after start up and last for about 10 sec or if I hold the throttle down at about 2000rpm and release slowly it settles to a smooth 670-700rpm. Once it starts idling its very stable. If I unplug the IAC the motor will die so it would appear that some of the required air is coming in through the IAC. What seems strange is that the ISCDC 12.51 value never changes....ever. Start up, shut down, keyon/engineoff.
Thanks for the help!
Thanks for the help!
Re: ISCDC stuck on same value
The problem may be with your ADX file or the way you have your dashboard setup. It's been a while since I've used Tunerpro but I remember not being able to log ISCDC also, the value on the dashboard never changed. IIRC I found a different ADX that worked but it's been a while since I've played with it.
81 Mustang, 91 5.0 shortblock, GT-40 heads & intake, TFS1 cam, 24# bluetops, Explorer TB and FEAD, 73mm C&L Maf, BBK shorties, T-5 with 3.73s. Running GUFB on A9P with QH.
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decipha
Re: ISCDC stuck on same value
you should choose your wording a little moe betta, I took that as meaning you unplugged the IAC and it stayed idling at 670-700broncomike wrote:Everything I tried has no affect on the read out. (i.e. rev engine, cold start, hot start, disconnect IAC, adjust throttle stop,etc). The motor idles at around 670-700rpm after surging stops and the NUBASE is still set at 672.
for your surging startup you need more fuel, go kick up the startup table for the first 5 sec or so at them lower temps where it gives you issues
yea its time you get the updated adx
efidynotuning.com
click on downloads >> tunerpro >> gufb
you can thank me later
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broncomike
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Re: ISCDC stuck on same value
I'll just go ahead and thank you now decipha........any/all help is welcome. I'll head over to your website and download the file.
Thanks
Thanks
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broncomike
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Re: ISCDC stuck on same value
Finally had some time to work on the motor again today......downloaded the updated .adx file and still no luck. The ISCDC value is still stuck on 12.51 all the time. As for the surging idle...I was able to increase selected values in the fuel start up table and noticed an improvement. At first I thought the surging idle was completely gone and after about 40 minutes of run time the problem presented again after 4 start-ups......
With all the difficulty I've been having I went back and started checking vacuum lines and connections and all looked to be in order. One concern I have is low vacuum. It hovers, fairly steady, at about 12"....is this low for a e303 cam? The motor is fresh with Ford Aluminum GT40 heads, Ford Cobra intake, and Explorer throttle body.
Thanks for opinions....
With all the difficulty I've been having I went back and started checking vacuum lines and connections and all looked to be in order. One concern I have is low vacuum. It hovers, fairly steady, at about 12"....is this low for a e303 cam? The motor is fresh with Ford Aluminum GT40 heads, Ford Cobra intake, and Explorer throttle body.
Thanks for opinions....
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