[decipha]

just curious how many of us frequent this forum, by frequent I mean typically 5 times or more a week
that include lurkers so yall speak up too

[85GT]

Probably 5 times a day...

[decipha]

yea me too, this is the second stop in my 'loop' I make when i hop on the web lol

[85GT]

Same here, 4 sites and 2-3 email sites in the regular log on loop :)

[jsa]

Every day usually, for this and other forums I follow.

[Paulie]

At least once a day.

[cgrey8]

Most weekdays, I'm refreshing the EECTuning.org tab in my browser many many times a day just to look for new posts. I don't always have time to read them, so new posts may get opened just to clear the "unread" status from them. Ones I've responded to that have updates, I generally do open to read the update(s).

Weekends, I'm far more spotty. And vacations, I may not check the Internet at all, including email. That's made easier because I don't have a smart phone.

[decipha]

no smart phone? so in other words you have a dumb phone? lol

[cgrey8]

Yup. An absolute POS dumb phone. But if I have anything better, it winds up getting smashed when I crash on the mountain bike trails. If I ever decide to get one, I'll probably just get an unactivated phone just to call 911 if I wreck and hurt myself bad enough I need that.

[decipha]

i hear ya, my android 'mobile device' is about 3 yrs old, i have no reason to replace it she works fine

only thing i ever use on my phone is the browser, calculator, and the net when i tether

[XantheFIN]

Weekly i guess.. I put hold my car for a winter so no progress on anything related to Ford and after 3 years being as my first car i have found my next car (not a ford)...
So i don't know do i tune with eec later.

P.S. 4 years old Galaxy S (1) with Android 2.2.1 (call recording)... and i got it by giving away my fart cannon which one friend wanted put it to honda.
Fart cannon i got with wrecked Escort (parts).

[ranga83]

usually on atleast once a day

[harold]

Several times per day. I'm here enough that there usually aren't new posts when I check.

[Jman]

It varies for me from about 4 times a day down to once a week. I depends on if I'm awaiting some responses for something I posted and or how busy I am at work.

Thanks
J.W.S.

[TwinSCs]

I usually poke my head in at least once a week. It used to be a couple of times a day, just been too busy for much internet time lately.

[EDS50]

I'm in and out. For some reason since the site went down last I no longer receive the email to let me know there is a new post or pm or anything at this point.

[decipha]

hey Ed, long time no chat, u still have my mobile number?

Give me a shout one of these days to shoot the shat and catch up

[blklightning1]

Typically lurk 3/5 times a week always trying to learn more about how BE & EA applies to my self tuning of a mass-air converted '93 Lightning. A lot of information to be gained here - thanks to all for sharing here!

[oversquare]

Sometimes several times a day, other times I'll go a week and not visit. Depends what aspect of my setup has my interest at that moment.

[phillyj116]

Been reading for hours every day trying to read, learn and retain as much as I can before I get started. Just rebuilt my motor and should go back in the car next week. Received my QH and super dongle a couple weeks ago. This is an amazing forum with so much great information, yet very overwhelming. How much time did you guys spend playing with software before you loaded a tune to your ecm? Did it run your first time? And how long did it take before you had a really good handle on what you're doing?

[cgrey8]

...How much time did you guys spend playing with software before you loaded a tune to your ecm?...

I started with CalEdit/CalCon back before BE existed. I quickly got tired of its errors and incompleteness and started tuning with TunerPro to access things that simply weren't available in CalEdit OR were not represented correctly. But it took a while of fumbling and trial-n-error to figure out that I simply wasn't seeing the world correctly in CalEdit. And after talking to people on this forum, my suspicions were confirmed. But how long did I study the software before loading a tune? No time. I read the stock tune from my EEC and practiced writing it to the various positions on my TwEECer. Then I started experimenting with the things I had a decent handle on such as Idle RPM, Part Throttle and WOT spark advance. Then I started branching out in the more complex areas like MAF curve, Idle spark, and ISC idle control. Since I maintained a working EGR, I even started tinkering with increased EGR flow to see if it would benefit me in any way by allowing me to increase Spark advance to get better fuel economy.

...Did it run your first time?...

I don't remember, but I don't recall there being a problem with getting the tunes into the device and having the EEC use it. But it's been so long ago, I don't remember.

...And how long did it take before you had a really good handle on what you're doing?

There was the initial overwhelming feeling just swimming through massive numbers of settings that I didn't understand and weren't documented hardly at all. So there was a fair amount of experimentation just to see if I could figure out what the settings were doing. Some settings didn't do what I expected well enough to mess with. Others made changes I didn't understand at all initially and required a LOT more trial-n-error and study to wrap my mind around what it was doing and why it did what it did when I experimented.

One of the harder concepts to understand was Injector breakpoint. But the hardest concept for me to understand how to tune was Idle control. You wouldn't believe how many different Idle controls there are that APPEAR contradictory based purely on naming. But once you understand the modes of Idle control and that Idle Control has both an Open Loop and Closed Loop mode (similar to OL and CL fueling), then you start realizing that some functions are only active in OL and others only active in CL. But there was never a comprehensive explanation of idle control for GUFx done. So you are left sifting through the GUFB document to figure it out. When BE was available, I started updating the GUFx defs with comments to help myself remember details I had to learn. I updated it so much that I became the defacto maintainer of it and still am. The GUFx defs for BE have matured a LOT. But they still aren't perfect. I sometimes stumble on entries that have comments I don't like or wish I'd done differently. Sometimes I update them. Sometimes I leave them. TBO, I'm just not as enthusiastic about maintaining them as I used to be.

This is why I am willing to pass the baton to someone else that wants that responsibility. So far, no takers...

[phillyj116]

I can't thank you enough for taking the time to respond to my questions, and so quickly. I'm looking forward to diving in here very shortly and I'm sure I will have many more questions in the future. Like anything though, I'll do my best to figure it out on my own before being to bothersome.

[rdubb17]

I usually drop in at least once a week - sometimes more if I m trying to figure something out. Depends on my work load and family demands. I'd love to be able to work on my car more but with two under 2, I just don't have the time.