PSA about BE version 5.136 and Sailorbob Defs

ironmanisanemic · Post by **ironmanisanemic** » Sat Jun 09, 2018 9:56 am

Hello,

Just to inform everyone, a new BE version rolled out recently. As of this writing it breaks compatibility with all of Sailorbobs definitions. So if you use Sailorbobs defs, you will need to stay on version 5.122 or earlier. This appears to be the last version that is still supports Sailorbobs defs. If you also use the CoreTuning Database, i would suggest to make a backup copy of BE to use Sailorbob defs, and another copy that you can keep up to date for the database.

jsa · Post by **jsa** » Sat Jun 09, 2018 4:20 pm

BE is still listed as 5.119 on the eecanalyzer site, where is 5.122 available from?

Do you know what has changed in 5.136 to cause the issue?

ironmanisanemic · Post by **ironmanisanemic** » Sat Jun 09, 2018 4:26 pm

I got both editions from the update program that's included with BE. I've often found that the website is often a last priority for updates.

The only thing I can gather is that the whole data logging system within how BE interacts with def files has changed. The problem you will have is the data logging errors out on def load. The tuning side seems unaffected though.

I reached out to sailorbob and he said the newest version is incompatible with his defs. I'm waiting to hear back if he plans to update them to match the new BE update.

jsa · Post by **jsa** » Sat Jun 09, 2018 5:02 pm

I have BE auto updates turned off, due to the varying quality of the updates.

Maybe the website only gets updated with stable versions after all the auto update-beta testers have proven it.

I would appreciate a copy on 5.122 if any one can help with that?

I wonder if the required def changes are actually published by Clint in the help file or somewhere?

ranga83 · Post by **ranga83** » Mon Jun 11, 2018 6:18 am

jsa, just sent you 5.122 via email.

jsa · Post by **jsa** » Mon Jun 11, 2018 4:16 pm

Thank you all, I have a couple copies now.

Jetfast50 · Post by **Jetfast50** » Fri Jun 15, 2018 3:31 pm

I just made this mistake of auto update, and I am dealing with this issue too!

can any one post, or send me a copy 5.122, so that I may have a copy as well?

I would appreciate it.

very frustrating, to say the very least.

jsa · Post by **jsa** » Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:40 pm

PM an email address

SVThoarder · Post by **SVThoarder** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:01 pm

same issue here. i made the mistake of updating. is there a known public download of the older version?

skunk · Post by **skunk** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:09 pm

Can those definitions be opened in Excel? If the problem is the same as the public LA3, it's an easy fix as long as you are able to edit the definition.

Turns out I had to change "signed" bytes from numeric 0/1 to words True/False on the "Payload" tab. I also found that tables and functions did not appear under subheadings yet they we're all listed. I ended up having to go through and re-order the "Levels" with sequential numbering then go through the definition file assigning the new numbers. Apparently BE doesn't like random ordering on the Levels tab anymore.

I have touched base with Clint already letting him know what I did to fix the problem. Maybe he will push another update.

Good luck
John

jsa · Post by **jsa** » Mon Jun 18, 2018 10:59 pm

No they are CRY files, not excel.

86GT · Post by **86GT** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:32 pm

Sorry for the delayed responses

5.136 has a lot of changes that customers have been asking for. You can look the whats new before you download any of the updates. You can also read the revision log and see the same thing.

Yes the strategies went through a minor change. BE uses a column called SIGNED on almost all tabs within the strategy. I was very inconsistent with how I implemented it. (Shame on Me). I now have correct this and all of the SIGNED columns now use a TRUE and FALSE rather than a 0 and 1. It is not a big change but it did cause all of the strategies to change.

his broke all of the databases for Core Tuning but Ben Head was on top of it and got all of those fixed prior to me releasing 5.136. I told Bob AKA sailorbob this prior to the release too. Bob is still on a Windows XP PC and the newer BE will not run on XP as it requires dot NET 4.5 or higher. I tried to go back to a older version of Dot Net but this broke also of t new features in BE. ca not regress back at this point.

Since bob is on Windows XP and dot net 4.5 is not compatible with his PC he is stuck using the older version. Bob can not test any of his strategies on the new build therefore 5.122 is the latest for his strategies.

If any of you are having issues with BE, please email me so I can fix the issues in BE.....

jsa · Post by **jsa** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:51 pm

Hey Clint,

How about hosting an older version of BE on your download page for those that get stuck?

86GT · Post by **86GT** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:58 pm

I have 5.122

www.eecanalyzer.net/dl/BE2012/BinaryEditor122.exe

SVThoarder · Post by **SVThoarder** » Tue Jun 19, 2018 6:21 pm

Thank you Clint!

sailorbob · Post by **sailorbob** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:41 am

86GT wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:32 pmBob is still on a Windows 95 PC

No, I'm not.

Post by **cgrey8** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:12 am

86GT wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:32 pmBob is still on a Windows 95 PC

I interpreted that as a joke.

86GT · Post by **86GT** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 8:29 am

Bob that is what I recall you telling me. If not then I'm sorry. BE should work on windows 7 and above with no issues. Maybe you and I can go offline and try to get this to work again. I was reverting BE back to Dot Net 4.0.3 trying to get it to work on XP for you. I completely mis understood then.

How the heck to I come up with you being on windows 95 then I meant windows XP. Must be my old age. Again sorry. Either way dot net 4.0.3 is the latest version for windows XP

Jetfast50 · Post by **Jetfast50** » Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:17 pm

86GT wrote: ↑Tue Jun 19, 2018 5:58 pm I have 5.122

www.eecanalyzer.net/dl/BE2012/BinaryEditor122.exe

tried this on 2 different computers, got a bunch of errors, would not run or load.

86GT · Post by **86GT** » Thu Jun 21, 2018 8:08 am

what errors are you seeing.

ironmanisanemic · Post by **ironmanisanemic** » Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:01 pm

Just got an update for 5.137, and according to the changelog it is backwards compatable with older defs.

1.1 BUILD 137 RELEASE DATE 24-JUN-2018
General

· Made strategies backward compatible.

· Fixed bug in Drop down scalars

I tested it out with Sailorbobs CBAZA def, and it works just like its supposed to.

Thanks to Clint for getting a fix going, so we werent stuck with having 2 copies of BE on our computers.

David Claflin · Post by **David Claflin** » Sun Apr 28, 2019 2:50 pm

I've got version 5.142, on a windows 7 machine. Last night I had reloaded Dereks .cry file for LUXO and it wouldn't load, got an error about file size. The previous .cry tune was 842KB, the free download bin files from Clint's site are 56KB, I hadn't updated anything on the computer, or BE from when I last opened the .cry tune yesterday, and then when it wouldn't open last night. Any ideas?

86GT · Post by **86GT** » Sun Apr 28, 2019 8:55 pm

You may need to get an update to Derek's strategy. If you have the latest then you can also upgrade BE to 5.170 or better.

David Claflin · Post by **David Claflin** » Mon Apr 29, 2019 5:04 am

I did just update BE to 5.171 but still no joy, the .cry file is from 2014. Hopefully the updated file is the remedy for this.

David Claflin · Post by **David Claflin** » Tue Apr 30, 2019 5:19 am

Derek said there is no updated definitions, so I've tried installing 5.169, but while installing it hangs up on MS visual C++ 2012 update saying the one on the computer is newer than the one trying to install.
Edit> I had to load MS visual C++ manually, and then was able to get the BE to update, so I've got 5.172, but still can't load the .cry strategies from Clint or Derek.

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