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kx250pilot
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Possibly a dead quarterhorse battery?
So tonight I installed that quarterhorse and binary editor.
I got it to were I was working on my idle and had it were I wanted it, then wrote it. After I turned the ignition off, the car restarted but running very low rpm, and rich. Is this what happens when the battery goes dead and you loose the tune?
I got it to were I was working on my idle and had it were I wanted it, then wrote it. After I turned the ignition off, the car restarted but running very low rpm, and rich. Is this what happens when the battery goes dead and you loose the tune?
94 mustang cobra
Custom grind cam
Cold air intake
O/r h pipe
Pypes m80s
Moates quarterhorse
Binary editor
Cbaza. J4j1 tune
Custom grind cam
Cold air intake
O/r h pipe
Pypes m80s
Moates quarterhorse
Binary editor
Cbaza. J4j1 tune
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Re: Possibly a dead quarterhorse battery?
Usually when the QH looses tunes, the fuel pump runs constantly, you get nothing from the EEC, and when you view the tune names in BE, you see garbage characters that are non-sensical.
And then there's simply measuring the voltage of the coin-cell battery. If it's anywhere near 1.0v, it's bad.
And then there's simply measuring the voltage of the coin-cell battery. If it's anywhere near 1.0v, it's bad.
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Re: Possibly a dead quarterhorse battery?
Thanks, the fuel pump does run constantly, but it runs, and everything I read said it wouldn't run.cgrey8 wrote:Usually when the QH looses tunes, the fuel pump runs constantly, you get nothing from the EEC, and when you view the tune names in BE, you see garbage characters that are non-sensical.
And then there's simply measuring the voltage of the coin-cell battery. If it's anywhere near 1.0v, it's bad.
94 mustang cobra
Custom grind cam
Cold air intake
O/r h pipe
Pypes m80s
Moates quarterhorse
Binary editor
Cbaza. J4j1 tune
Custom grind cam
Cold air intake
O/r h pipe
Pypes m80s
Moates quarterhorse
Binary editor
Cbaza. J4j1 tune
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Re: Possibly a dead quarterhorse battery?
I guess there's a chance your EEC has a hardware limp mode that will allow it to just barely run the engine, if horribly. That's pretty impressive if it can do that without lucid code to tell the processor how to fire the injectors.
The ignition should fire the plugs even if the EEC isn't commanding. It'll just go to base timing which is the same as if you pull the SPOUT jumper and try to run the engine.
The ignition should fire the plugs even if the EEC isn't commanding. It'll just go to base timing which is the same as if you pull the SPOUT jumper and try to run the engine.
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89 Ranger Supercab, 331 w/GT40p heads, ported Explorer lower, Crane Powermax 2020 cam, FMS Explorer (GT40p) headers, aftermarket T5 'Z-Spec', GUFB, Moates QuarterHorse tuned using BE&EA
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89 Ranger Supercab, 331 w/GT40p heads, ported Explorer lower, Crane Powermax 2020 cam, FMS Explorer (GT40p) headers, aftermarket T5 'Z-Spec', GUFB, Moates QuarterHorse tuned using BE&EA
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Re: Possibly a dead quarterhorse battery?
Ok thanks, I'll pull it back out in the morning and check the battery voltage.
94 mustang cobra
Custom grind cam
Cold air intake
O/r h pipe
Pypes m80s
Moates quarterhorse
Binary editor
Cbaza. J4j1 tune
Custom grind cam
Cold air intake
O/r h pipe
Pypes m80s
Moates quarterhorse
Binary editor
Cbaza. J4j1 tune
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decipha
Re: Possibly a dead quarterhorse battery?
the internal hardware will batch fire the injectors on ignition pips if it does not have valid code
it'll run like ass but wont leave you stranded
it'll run like ass but wont leave you stranded
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Re: Possibly a dead quarterhorse battery?
What algorithm does it use to control InjPW? I'm assuming it would be TPS/RPM related some how.
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89 Ranger Supercab, 331 w/GT40p heads, ported Explorer lower, Crane Powermax 2020 cam, FMS Explorer (GT40p) headers, aftermarket T5 'Z-Spec', GUFB, Moates QuarterHorse tuned using BE&EA
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decipha
Re: Possibly a dead quarterhorse battery?
no its nothing intricate at all, basically the injectors fire on each pip, there might be a cap that fills and varies the time some or some crap like that but its strictly hardware driven
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Re: Possibly a dead quarterhorse battery?
Well you are correct. The battery measured 0.5 v. Should have measured before install since I bought it used. Oh well. Since I'm impatient and have decent electrical repair skills, I decided to fix it myself rather than sending it in. I unsoldered the battery cage from the board and took it to radioshack. They didn't have anything close enough to work so I went thus route. I think a pair of AAAs will have greater capacity as well. I wouldn't recommend this unless you have done a significant amount of solder work before. Edit, it would not let me post pics from my phone. I posted some in the corral. Here is the link.http://www.corral.net/#/forumsite/20549 ... 562?page=1
94 mustang cobra
Custom grind cam
Cold air intake
O/r h pipe
Pypes m80s
Moates quarterhorse
Binary editor
Cbaza. J4j1 tune
Custom grind cam
Cold air intake
O/r h pipe
Pypes m80s
Moates quarterhorse
Binary editor
Cbaza. J4j1 tune
Re: Possibly a dead quarterhorse battery?
My QH battery just died too. Found this thread while searching around and kx250pilot's link is dead. Here's a new link to his thread:
http://forums.corral.net/forums/94-95-t ... ttery.html
http://forums.corral.net/forums/94-95-t ... ttery.html
1994 Mustang GT, 351w (377 stroker), TFS heads, hydraulic roller lifters, 1.7 roller rockers, explorer intake, T4M0, Quarterhorse, SLC-DIY wideband AFR meter
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decipha
Re: Possibly a dead quarterhorse battery?
why not just solder a coin cell holder on it
shoot moates an email and they send one out to you
shoot moates an email and they send one out to you
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